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Bookie's biometrics (FRS)

  • 20-08-2019 10:06pm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭

    Surprised no one's noticed this new trend, across retail: 'Facial Recon' Systems'.

    An article/report: named only Ladbrokes, Coral and the Hippodrome Casino (London) and it does now also appear clearly in Lad's privacy policy.

    So if you get a lucky, on LuckyLady running at the 5:30 in Windsor, would the cameras bar you from getting a monkey on it again, because of the cheery all-knowing glint in your eye as approaching the cash desk?
    This applies also to many other shops and private businesses. But bookies have more at stake, as they do already perform denial of services on people, if winning too much (if they remember them).

    What's the best way around this if I want to win another grand on a few lucky lotto balls without being told 'že Жomputer says Иo'?

    i) Adam Ant type face paint around the cheekbones
    ii) Immitate Donalds pal (the one from 'guess who') with big wig, glasses and big moustachio, repeated with slight variations (hat/pipe/shades) thereafter.
    iii) other methods e.g. temporary face tattoo


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭montyrebel

    link to said article?

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr

    montyrebel wrote: »
    link to said article?

    Guardian, via BigBro'Watch:

    Starting to appear in bookies terms (smallprint).

    There's bound to be an easy way to prevent the cameras from flashing you up as 'lucky punter' on the cash desk screen, the very second walk into the door (they can read 200 faces per second).

    Perhaps something like UV or iRed marker zigzags on face. These would not be visable by the human eye, but likely captured by cams wider spectrum, and result in a process error.

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr

    Actually it seems to be largely unavoidable, this from Wired^ says:
    Researchers have found that by using a deep learning framework trained on 14 key facial points, they were able to accurately identify partially-occluded faces most of the time. This includes wearing glasses, scarves, hats or fake beards

    An additional variable for measurement is the way you walk (gait analysis), so the usual hop and skip will pose denial of services.
    The only hope is full 3D latext reprint. Other methods mentioned in same article ^ is iR-LED lights via baseball cap, to disrupt forms.

    Each system is unique, and as such one method may not work on another.
    More exotic solutions might come from HyperFace
    A hundred face patterns printed on a scarf (but more technical: ground vs figure) to bombard some edge algorithms.

    Not just bookies of course, can forsee cafes using this to nudge people out, after their alloted 20mins of caffeine slurp time is up.
    No need for them ever to ask them 'Do I know your face', or asking to scribble your name on the cup again.