Disability and part time work?

Morby

A family friend is currently on DA but is eager to gt back working before they find themselves unemployable due to a gap in their work history.

They think that that have more or less secured a job working two days a week, which they are delighted about.

The job pays minimum wage, so €9.80 an hour. Presumably they would be 8 hr shifts, so 16 hours per week, or thereabouts.

They worried that they'll lose their medical card or travel pass by accepting the work however?

My understanding is that they can have the travel pass for 5 years after starting working. What happens after 5 years though, do they lose it completely even if they only working 2 days per week and on minimum wage? Is there a certain threshold you have to be earning over before you lose the travel pass completely?

Also, medical card, I think you can retain it for 3 years after taking up employment, but presumably after the 3 years they would still be entitled to it as they would be earning well under the income thresholds permitted?

Then again, when it comes to anything, I don't want to presume and put his person in the wrong with misguided info from the outset.

If my maths are correct I reckon they'll lose €17.50 per week of their DA payment for the 2 days work at the rates given.

Unsure if they'll have to pay universal service charge, PRSI or any tax on the earnings they'll be making for 2 days at minimum pay per week?

Anything else I should be advising them of or to take heed of or note before they start the work?

splinter65

Morby wrote: »

A family friend is currently on DA but is eager to gt back working before they find themselves unemployable due to a gap in their work history.

They think that that have more or less secured a job working two days a week, which they are delighted about.

The job pays minimum wage, so €9.80 an hour. Presumably they would be 8 hr shifts, so 16 hours per week, or thereabouts.

They worried that they'll lose their medical card or travel pass by accepting the work however?

My understanding is that they can have the travel pass for 5 years after starting working. What happens after 5 years though, do they lose it completely even if they only working 2 days per week and on minimum wage? Is there a certain threshold you have to be earning over before you lose the travel pass completely?

Also, medical card, I think you can retain it for 3 years after taking up employment, but presumably after the 3 years they would still be entitled to it as they would be earning well under the income thresholds permitted?

Then again, when it comes to anything, I don't want to presume and put his person in the wrong with misguided info from the outset.

If my maths are correct I reckon they'll lose €17.50 per week of their DA payment for the 2 days work at the rates given.

Unsure if they'll have to pay universal service charge, PRSI or any tax on the earnings they'll be making for 2 days at minimum pay per week?

Anything else I should be advising them of or to take heed of or note before they start the work?

DA isn’t taxable so you can assume that the €156 wages won’t incur any deductions.
While they continue to be entitled to DA they will retain HBP FT and LAI.

Sienna5050

im on DA and earning this exact amount ,im not taced or prsi and my DA went down by 18 euro per week .ALL secondary benifits have remained the same ,

MY one concern is my fuel allowance ,iv already asked about this on here but got no replies ,,,im concerned it put me over the income limit as im not sure if all income is means tested ,as 120 of earnings on DA is not counted as means for DA

splinter65

Sienna5050 wrote: »

im on DA and earning this exact amount ,im not taced or prsi and my DA went down by 18 euro per week .ALL secondary benifits have remained the same ,

MY one concern is my fuel allowance ,iv already asked about this on here but got no replies ,,,im concerned it put me over the income limit as im not sure if all income is means tested ,as 120 of earnings on DA is not counted as means for DA

Your income limit if your living on your own is 348.30. If you’ve less then that with your DA and wages combined then you’ll continue to get FA.

Sienna5050

splinter65 wrote: »

Your income limit if your living on your own is 348.30. If you’ve less then that with your DA and wages combined then you’ll continue to get FA.

i get 353 including living alone allowance and phone allowance so i guess thats me excluded

dartboardio

Since a few months ago you can earn up to €427 while on DA and keep your medical card.

Just call 1890252919 if unsure.

It used to be €120 now it is €420 (inclusive of the DA also) or something near that figure like €427 or similar

Sienna5050

So could anyone clarify,in the operational guidlines it states 348 icome limit but add 9 euro if on living alone ,and in income disreagard the DA payment is disregarded,so if im reading and understanding correctly only my income from work is counted and therefore i will get fuel allowance,
anyone able to confirm this please,


-In the case of applicants in receipt of the Increase for Living Alone (ILA), an extra allowance of €9.00 may be applied to the appropriate Social Welfare rate.

- All non-contributory payments except for half-rate Carer’s Allowance

DA is a none contributory payment .

Morby

Also interested to know if you lose the Fuel Allowance of taking up part time work 2 days per week at minimum wage, say 16 hours X €9.80, does this effect Fuel Allowance and Living Alone Allowance?

Sienna5050

Morby wrote: »

Also interested to know if you lose the Fuel Allowance of taking up part time work 2 days per week at minimum wage, say 16 hours X €9.80, does this effect Fuel Allowance and Living Alone Allowance?

i got writen confirmation that in my case i dont ,living alone and your dissibility payment are not counted as means for the means test ,,got this from DA Section and citizen advice also told me

OkeyDoke12

dartboardio wrote: »

Since a few months ago you can earn up to €427 while on DA and keep your medical card.

Just call 1890252919 if unsure.

It used to be €120 now it is €420 (inclusive of the DA also) or something near that figure like €427 or similar

So basically you can earn €20000 p/a and keep your DSA? obvisouly you wouldn't be eligible for DA payment but would you still be entitled for Fuel Allowance, Household benefits package?

dartboardio

OkeyDoke12 wrote: »

dartboardio wrote: »

Since a few months ago you can earn up to €427 while on DA and keep your medical card.

Just call 1890252919 if unsure.

It used to be €120 now it is €420 (inclusive of the DA also) or something near that figure like €427 or similar

So basically you can earn €20000 p/a and keep your DSA? obvisouly you wouldn't be eligible for DA payment but would you still be entitled for Fuel Allowance, Household benefits package?

I dont know, as the medical card and social welfare are completely seperate.

Alls I know is from working at the National Medical Card Unit that yes you can earn up to 427 euros in employment along with your DA and still be entitled to hold a medical card.

lulu1

dartboardio wrote: »

Since a few months ago you can earn up to €427 while on DA and keep your medical card.

Just call 1890252919 if unsure.

It used to be €120 now it is €420 (inclusive of the DA also) or something near that figure like €427 or similar

Do I have this right I can claim disability say 180-200euro and still go out and work and 427euro Somethng wrong somewhere

ExoPolitic

lulu1 wrote: »

Do I have this right I can claim disability say 180-200euro and still go out and work and 427euro Somethng wrong somewhere

No, it's a sliding scale which can be found on welfare.ie

mcdaids69

new rule came in last year but only counts in some cases to work full-time and claim....most nearly all keep disabilty,rent allowence,living,fuel,ESB...(bascically all packages)...only thing thaat changes when they review your rent allowence (once a year) they take your total earned might be 8,000 lets say a year ..they will then take 10/20/30 (depending on how much u earned)from your rent allowence,,so you pay the extra you earn on your home rent...be warned tho everyone thinks holiday pay is not included in total, IT IS!!!!

splinter65

The DA has been confused with Medical Cards here now.

OkeyDoke12

Sorry this thread got messy but here it goes.

I am on DA & have 2 kids my partner is on JSA but is going for CE Scheme in coming weeks.

I am looking to get a job but majority are Full Time and are 20000 P/A which equates to €384 p/w . I tried ringing up DA today but it was very busy.

So, If i was to get a job at €20000 p/a, would I still be entitled the Free Travel, Household benefit's, Fuel Allowance? How much tax would I have to pay? Would my partner still be entitled to JSA and do CE scheme?