Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Disability Allowance & Work

  • 14-08-2019 3:47pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭


    Hello,

    My eldest is aged 18 and in receipt of DA, against my advice they recently went and did a FAS course to obtain their truck licence, utter lunacy, but anyway they now wish to work 20 hours per week and he has found an employer who is willing to take him on. Is GP approval still needed before taking up the work or can he do it and send in his payslip to the DA office? Thanks.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭lulu1


    As far as i know you can only work 15 hours when in receipt of DA and should be rehabilitative work

    Yes he would need to inform the DA section


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    lulu1 wrote: »
    As far as i know you can only work 15 hours when in receipt of DA and should be rehabilitative work

    Yes he would need to inform the DA section

    It’s based on income rather than hours I was told since writing the post. Is there certain work they wouldn’t see as being rehabilitative?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭zipee


    It’s based on income rather than hours I was told since writing the post. Is there certain work they wouldn’t see as being rehabilitative?

    I never heard of it being rehabilitative work???? It’s work...,

    Why is it nuts they’ve done the licence??? Is there epilepsy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭lulu1


    Income from work
    To qualify for a means-tested payment your income from various sources is examined to see whether it is under a certain level. Some earnings from work are not taken into account in the assessment of your means and do not affect your payment. For Disability Allowance and Blind Pension, earnings of up to €120 from work (either as an employee or as a self-employed person) are not taken into account at all in the assessment of means. (The means assessed are your gross earnings less PRSI, any pension contributions and any union dues. You cannot deduct income tax or income levies.)

    If you earn more than €120 per week from work, 50% of your earnings between €120 and €350 are not taken into account in the Disability Allowance or Blind Pension means test.

    Disability Allowance: all earnings from work over €350 are assessed as income and your entitlement to Disability Allowance will be reduced in line with the appropriate reduced rates of payment for Disability Allowance. If you have no other means, the maximum amount you can earn is €437.50 and still keep an entitlement to the minimum personal payment of €3 (from 27 March 2019). If you are getting payments for a qualified adult or qualified children your means from work are deducted from the family rate that applies to you.

    Blind Pension: all earnings from work over €350 are assessed as income and your entitlement to Blind Pension will be reduced in line with the appropriate reduced rates of payment for Blind Pension. If you have no other means, the maximum amount you can earn is €442.60 and still keep an entitlement to the minimum personal payment of €3 (from 27 March 2019).

    There is no restriction on the number of hours you can work.

    Social insurance payments: Invalidity Pension and Illness Benefit are social insurance (PRSI-based) payments. You cannot work while you are getting these payments (with the exception of voluntary unpaid work).

    If you have been getting Invalidity Pension or Illness Benefit (for at least 6 months) you can apply for Partial Capacity Benefit, if you have a reduced capacity to work. The work does not have to be rehabilitative. You may have to pay income tax on your total income. Exemptions for rehabilitative work are no longer available.

    Occupational Injuries Benefit Scheme and rehabilitative work
    Injury Benefit is one of the benefits available under the Occupational Injuries Scheme. If you are getting Injury Benefit you can do light voluntary work. You can also do part-time work which is part of a treatment or charitable in character (provided you do not earn more than €50 a week) without permission. However, if you wish to do other rehabilitative work or a training course you must get written permission from the DEASP (called an exemption) before starting. Exemptions allowing a person to work are not normally granted within the first 26 weeks of Injury Benefit.

    Incapacity Supplement is paid to people who are getting Disablement Pension and who do not qualify for any other disability payments. You can work provided you do not earn more than €33 a week on average. However, if you wish to do other rehabilitative work or a training course you must get written permission from the DEASP before starting. Initial requests for an exemption to do training courses are automatically granted but subsequent requests are referred to a DEASP medical advisor. If you wish to take part in a Community Employment Scheme, you cannot retain your Incapacity Supplement but you can retain your Disablement Benefit.

    People getting Disablement Pension (without another payment) can work (full- or part-time) and do not need permission from the Department.

    Employment schemes and other payments
    People getting Disability Allowance can qualify for the Rural Social Scheme (if they are actively farming or fishing).

    People getting Illness Benefit, Invalidity Pension, Disability Allowance, and Blind Pension can qualify for Community Employment.

    People getting disability payments are not eligible for the TÚS or Gateway schemes.

    People getting Disability Allowance and Blind Pension can qualify for Working Family Payment (WFP) if they meet the criteria. People getting Invalidity Pension and Illness Benefit cannot work and therefore cannot qualify for WFP. People getting Partial Capacity Benefit do not qualify for WFP.

    Extra benefits
    If you work while getting Disability Allowance or Blind Pension you can retain any extra benefits you were getting. However, the amount of Rent Supplement you get may be affected by your increased income.

    In general, you can retain any extra benefits you were getting when you take part in an employment scheme.

    You can read about Rent Supplement and how additional income from work or taking part in an employment scheme may affect it in our document on Rent Supplement and changes to your circumstances.

    Keeping entitlement to Free Travel
    Since 6 April 2017, under the Make Work Pay initiative, if you move from a long-term disability payment (see list below) to a job, you can keep your entitlement to Free Travel for a period of 5 years, provided you have registered for a Public Services Card.

    Disability Allowance
    Invalidity Pension
    Partial Capacity Benefit (from Invalidity Pension)
    Disablement Benefit paid along with Incapacity Supplement
    Transfer from Disability Allowance or Invalidity Pension to a Community Employment, SOLAS or Back to Work scheme.
    FET training courses
    If you are getting Disability Allowance or Blind Pension and take up a place on a FET training course you receive a training allowance at the same rate as your social welfare payment. Your social welfare payment is suspended when you are on the training course. You can return to your social welfare payment when you leave the training course.

    If you were getting Invalidity Pension or Illness Benefit, and take up a place on a FET training course you will continue to get your full social welfare payment including any increases you get for your dependents. You do not get a training allowance or a training bonus. You must always apply for prior written permission from DEASP before you can take up a training course.

    You can read more in our document on training allowances.

    You retain any extra benefits that you had before taking up the course. You can read about how taking part in a training course may affect your Rent Supplement in our document on Rent Supplement and changes to your circumstances.

    Page edited: 2 April 2019




    Related Documents
    Help with low pay
    Tax and social welfare assistance is available for low income earners and their families. Information on available schemes and how to apply.
    Partial Capacity Benefit
    Partial Capacity Benefit is a scheme to support people on Illness Benefit or Invalidity Pension who want to return to work.
    Invalidity Pension
    Invalidity Pension is a social insurance payment that may be paid to people who cannot work because of a long-term illness or disability.
    Contact Us
    If you have a question relating to this topic you can contact the Citizens Information Phone Service on 0761 07 4000 (Monday to Friday, 9am to 8pm) or you can visit your local Citizens Information Centre.

    Find information on...
    Social Welfare
    Employment
    Travel and Recreation
    Family and Relationships
    Environment
    Justice
    Death and Bereavement
    Health
    Housing
    Education and Training
    Money and Tax
    Consumer Affairs
    Moving Country
    Government in Ireland
    About
    About us
    Contact us
    Accessibility
    Privacy and Cookies
    Disclaimer
    Re-use of Public Sector Information
    Reference documents


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Thanks all for your replies.

    Just to update on this, contacted the DEASP directly, they have said for him to just take up the job, inform them and send in his first payslip, he can earn the first €120 and still get full DA.


  • Advertisement
Advertisement