Ct1 form for dormant company

cdgalwegian

Hiya,
Had accountant submitting forms for me for 2017, but did it myself last year to save momey. This time round, can't get past Trading Results page;

Validation Errors

The following errors exist on this return. You must correct these errors before you can proceed.

• If a value has been entered for "Trading Loss from a Qualifying Asset" on the Deductions, Reliefs and Credits panel, a value should be present in the "Total Losses appropriate to this trade, before Capital Allowances, in this accounting period" field in the "Profits from Qualifying Assets" section of the Trading Results panel.
• If a value has been entered for "Trading Charges in respect of Qualifying Assets" on the Deductions, Reliefs and Credits panel, a value must be present in the "Charges relevant to Qualifying Assets" field on the Trading Results panel.
• If a value has been entered for "Trading Group Relief in respect of Qualifying Assets" on the Deductions, Reliefs and Credits panel, a value must be present in the Group Relief relevant to Qualifying Assets field on the Trading Results panel.
• As you have selected iXBRL Options 3, 4 or 5, you must populate either the Return for AP ended field or complete the ‘Accounts

I've tried every combination (as far as I can see) of putting a '0' in what I think are the appropriate boxes (as dormant, therefore no profits or losses), but it keeps bringing me back to the above. I did it ok last year; anyone know the correct places for the zeroes?

CIARAN_BOYLE

cdgalwegian wrote: »

Hiya,
Had accountant submitting forms for me for 2017, but did it myself last year to save momey. This time round, can't get past Trading Results page;

Validation Errors

The following errors exist on this return. You must correct these errors before you can proceed.

• If a value has been entered for "Trading Loss from a Qualifying Asset" on the Deductions, Reliefs and Credits panel, a value should be present in the "Total Losses appropriate to this trade, before Capital Allowances, in this accounting period" field in the "Profits from Qualifying Assets" section of the Trading Results panel.
• If a value has been entered for " Trading Charges in respect of Qualifying Assets" on the Deductions, Reliefs and Credits panel, a value must be present in the "Charges relevant to Qualifying Assets" field on the Trading Results panel.
• If a value has been entered for "Trading Group Relief in respect of Qualifying Assets" on the Deductions, Reliefs and Credits panel, a value must be present in the Group Relief relevant to Qualifying Assets field on the Trading Results panel.
• As you have selected iXBRL Options 3, 4 or 5, you must populate either the Return for AP ended field or complete the ‘Accounts

I've tried every combination (as far as I can see) of putting a '0' in what I think are the appropriate boxes (as dormant, therefore no profits or losses), but it keeps bringing me back to the above. I did it ok last year; anyone know the correct places for the zeroes?

In this case there's zeros (zero is a value) in three cells that makes the system look for a value in other cells.

Delete the zeros. I've iticised the cell names in your post above.

For the 4th item if you go to the section about ixbrl (5 options you've ticked the one that means you don't need to submit ixbrl accounts) then go to the bottom of the screen. Click the button for accounts extracts. Then fill in the accounts extracts.

There's an * on that screen everywhere you need to put a zero.

cdgalwegian

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

In this case there's zeros (zero is a value) in three cells that makes the system look for a value in other cells.

Delete the zeros. I've iticised the cell names in your post above.

I've tried leaving everything blank, to see what's left as necessary to fill in, but this gives me even more validation errors. Is there only 1 or 2 specifically to fill in with zero value?


I don't know what you mean by "I've iticised the cell names in your post above"- sorry.

CIARAN_BOYLE

cdgalwegian wrote: »

I've tried leaving everything blank, to see what's left as necessary to fill in, but this gives me even more validation errors. Is there only 1 or 2 specifically to fill in with zero value?


I don't know what you mean by "I've iticised the cell names in your post above"- sorry.

Sorry I meant that I had put it in italics but unfortunately autocorrect doesn't seem to cooperate. I've now bolded the cell names in that quote.

cdgalwegian

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Sorry I meant that I had put it in italics but unfortunately autocorrect doesn't seem to cooperate. I've now bolded the cell names in that quote.

Figured as much, but didn't want to assume.;)
Anyways, I had already tried to follow what you have put in bold- it's been doing my head in- but still had no joy. The wording seems deliberately obfuscasting, encouraging paying out for accountant no doubt.:rolleyes:
The suggestions don't seem to tally with the required fields.:mad:
Can you say which boxes exactly need what?

CIARAN_BOYLE

cdgalwegian wrote: »

Figured as much, but didn't want to assume.;)
Anyways, I had already tried to follow what you have put in bold- it's been doing my head in- but still had no joy. The wording seems deliberately obfuscasting, encouraging paying out for accountant no doubt.:rolleyes:
The suggestions don't seem to tally with the required fields.:mad:
Can you say which boxes exactly need what?

Not at a computer this week at all so I can't. I don't have it on the top of my head. I know it when I see it but that's no good to you.

SRASE

The section for profits from qualifying assets is usually hidden on this page. There should be an option in blue writing "Show Profits from Qualifying Assets". If you click on this and see if any of these fields have any entry.

Also if you go to the bottom of the page and click "Clear Page". You will have to put in nil in some of the boxes again but this should not take long.

cdgalwegian

Thanks CB and SRASE. I've been trying and trying- no good. No combination of trial and errors are working for me, even though last year it was a doddle. I'll ring CRO tomorrow and see if they can show me on-screen, as they are usually helpful. I'll let ye know how I get on.

CIARAN_BOYLE

cdgalwegian wrote: »

Thanks CB and SRASE. I've been trying and trying- no good. No combination of trial and errors are working for me, even though last year it was a doddle. I'll ring CRO tomorrow and see if they can show me on-screen, as they are usually helpful. I'll let ye know how I get on.

Revenue not cro.

cdgalwegian

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Revenue not cro.

Yeah, dem lot.:p

Stratvs

Are you using a pre populated CT1 downloaded from ROS?
If so How about just completing a new blank ct1 instead and just fill in the fields that are you’re sure the rest of the form is empty.

cdgalwegian

Stratvs wrote: »

Are you using a pre populated CT1 downloaded from ROS?
If so How about just completing a new blank ct1 instead and just fill in the fields that are you’re sure the rest of the form is empty.

Thanks. I'll try that tomorrow when I'm back to my computer at home.

cdgalwegian

Stratvs wrote: »

Are you using a pre populated CT1 downloaded from ROS?
If so How about just completing a new blank ct1 instead and just fill in the fields that are you’re sure the rest of the form is empty.

I've tried that several times, by using clear button. Having said that, there doesn't see to be any pre-populated figures there anyway (using clear to start afresh every time).

cdgalwegian

From my double-posting elsewhere:

"just wondering what value does setting the dormant switch have for you, if nothing happening..nothing happening, but you still need to make a return...
have you put zeros in the complete accounts section?"

I've not seen anywhere that allows "setting the dormant switch". Sounds like it could be the ticket though.

From another post re ROS app; I'm using computer, so not using app, but also computer runs on Linux- so for offline applications, can only download Windows and MAC.
Not having much luck at all!
I'll try Revenue now anyway.

Stratvs

cdgalwegian wrote: »

I've tried that several times, by using clear button. Having said that, there doesn't see to be any pre-populated figures there anyway (using clear to start afresh every time).

I'm not getting the "using clear to start afresh" part. If you open a totally new CT1 on the ROS offline application there should be nothing to clear. You have to put in the company ID data (tax reg, directors etc.) from scratch alrght. You put zero in the Trading Results tab under Profit before CA. Then at the accounts extract tab you select Option 4 where the company is inactive. You complete the CT self assessment which should come out as nil. You may get a warning that you haven't completed the amount of CT paid where that was nil but it will save and should submit.

Stratvs

cdgalwegian wrote: »

I'm using computer, so not using app, but also computer runs on Linux- so for offline applications, can only download Windows and MAC.
Not having much luck at all!
I'll try Revenue now anyway.

Not familiar with Linux but the ROS offline application will run on Windows. You need to download it then download the forms you want from within the application. Then you can complete a totally new form.

cdgalwegian

Stratvs wrote: »

Not familiar with Linux but the ROS offline application will run on Windows. You need to download it then download the forms you want from within the application. Then you can complete a totally new form.

I have Linux, not Windows, so can't download.
I've just spoken to ROS technical; I have to send a screenshot of the issue for them to have a look at it, and they'll get back to me.

Someone in ROS who I had phoned earlier had already said there was a software change from last year, so there may be a technical issue going on.

cdgalwegian

Jesus H Christ.
After all that; I remembered someone I had been talking to had mentioned about not pressing the 'back' button with the browser (as it can cause problems)- rather than pressing on the column fields, such as company details etc- so I got to thinking this was maybe a browser issue (I use Mozilla Firefox). So I changed browser; as I have Linux, apparently Chrome isn't available, but there is a pre-installed one called Chromium (don't ask me- apparently it's the same as Chrome), and had to swap the digital certificate on to it. I cleared everything and started again; all done in about 15 minutes, using pre-populated data.
Anyways, just to let ye guys that helped know that i appreciate your time with helping- and I hope that it might help others that might have similar difficulties.

Thanks.