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Moped/scooter at 16

  • 14-08-2019 7:12am
    #1
    iamtony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭


    My 15 year olds birthday is coming up and I was wondering is it very complicated to be able to drive a moped at this age these days?
    When I was 16 I had one but it was easy to just get a provisional licence and drive it.
    I see the law still says you can do it at 16 but would he have to get a full bike licence or how does it work these days? Or does it even work these days?


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  • #2
    Tzardine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    It's not as easy as it once was, but it's still not too complicated.

    Even if he just wants a moped, he should get the license for A1, which lets him drive low powered "proper" bikes as well as the scooter. The process is,

    Theory test
    Get learner permit
    Complete a series of driving lessons (IBT) 16 hours
    He can apply for the driving test after 6 months.

    https://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Learner-Drivers/Motorcyclists/no-name-yet/


  • #3
    iamtony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    Great info thanks. The link breaks it down nicely. I wonder can you apply for the theory test now, I'm thinking out loud I'm gonna go look that up myself.


  • #4
    iamtony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    iamtony wrote: »
    Great info thanks. The link breaks it down nicely. I wonder can you apply for the theory test now, I'm thinking out loud I'm gonna go look that up myself.
    To answer my own question you can do the test at any age but when presenting for the provisional licence the theory test certificate can't be more than 2 years old so he could of done the theory test at 14 if he wanted to.


  • #5
    iamtony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    Can't seem to get an insurance quote online for him anyone have a ballpark figure for scooter insurance for a 16 year old?


  • #6
    iamtony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    iamtony wrote: »
    Can't seem to get an insurance quote online for him anyone have a ballpark figure for scooter insurance for a 16 year old?
    got a rough quote of about 800 from liberty.


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  • #7
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    My 16yr old young lad is just waiting for his permit to land in the letter box, and has the bike bought.

    Insurance on it is €1200+ in the West, and they guy we got it from in Meath was quoted €1900.

    A moped or smaller-than-125 would be a bit cheaper: we did get a quote on a Keeway 125 of €850.00

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #8
    iamtony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    galwaytt wrote: »
    My 16yr old young lad is just waiting for his permit to land in the letter box, and has the bike bought.

    Insurance on it is €1200+ in the West, and they guy we got it from in Meath was quoted €1900.

    A moped or smaller-than-125 would be a bit cheaper: we did get a quote on a Keeway 125 of €850.00
    Thanks The quote I got was on a Honda vision 110 but the missus won't have that because it can do 100kph so a 50cc is what he will be getting(if 8t happens).


  • #9
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    iamtony wrote: »
    Thanks The quote I got was on a Honda vision 110 but the missus won't have that because it can do 100kph so a 50cc is what he will be getting(if 8t happens).

    That wouldn't do 100kph off a cliff.

    The 125 I've bought is fairly stretched at 85 tbh.

    And, having driven both large & small motorcycles my whole life, the way traffic is now, a too-small bike is more dangerous, not less.

    When you see 10t tractors pulling trailers at 45kph then a 50cc bike is a liability.

    Ditto out on the open road. When cars were Fiat 127's and old Mini's, a 100kph bike was fast and you could keep ahead or with traffic.

    Now every learner is in a Qashqai or Octavia which cruises all day at 120kph and stuck on a bike at 85kph is a rolling road block. It simply does not have the power to keep out of harm's way.

    The minute my lad passes his test I'm moving him onto something bigger, safer.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #10
    iamtony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭iamtony


    galwaytt wrote: »
    That wouldn't do 100kph off a cliff.

    The 125 I've bought is fairly stretched at 85 tbh.

    And, having driven both large & small motorcycles my whole life, the way traffic is now, a too-small bike is more dangerous, not less.

    When you see 10t tractors pulling trailers at 45kph then a 50cc bike is a liability.

    Ditto out on the open road. When cars were Fiat 127's and old Mini's, a 100kph bike was fast and you could keep ahead or with traffic.

    Now every learner is in a Qashqai or Octavia which cruises all day at 120kph and stuck on a bike at 85kph is a rolling road block. It simply does not have the power to keep out of harm's way.

    The minute my lad passes his test I'm moving him onto something bigger, safer.
    Actually looked it up their again and honestjohn says it does 50mph at a push so about 80 tops but it struggles to do it.
    I'm in Dublin and I wouldn't see him looking to go on long drives although you never know.
    Your reasoning makes sense I'll be running it past the missus thanks. I kinda want one myself now:D


  • #11
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    iamtony wrote: »
    Actually looked it up their again and honestjohn says it does 50mph at a push so about 80 tops but it struggles to do it.
    I'm in Dublin and I wouldn't see him looking to go on long drives although you never know.
    Your reasoning makes sense I'll be running it past the missus thanks. I kinda want one myself now:D

    All good :D

    At 16 he can ride my current bikes and my wife's bikes with ease. Mines a 1450, hers and 800. The 125 is actually harder, if that makes sense.

    I would be guided by having something that can out-accelerate a car and keep pace with traffic. Ignore the engine size (to a certain extent: money etc is the big 'filter' for that !)

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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