wifi security camera

jus_tin4

Hi all,

Looking into putting some security camera around the yard and i was hoeing to try extend the Wifi within the house to the farm yard.

I seen something at the tullamore show and stupidly didnt get more details on it but essentially it was a bar that was attached out side your house and i believe was connected straight to the router to boost the signal a significat radius for the use of wifi cameras.
Also think it would be handy for the us of any other apps like herd watch which we are looking into atm.

If anyone knows anything in this area it would be great?

I want to avoid the doogle root, so atm that option is out.

Thanks,
justin

emaherx

jus_tin4 wrote: »

Hi all,

Looking into putting some security camera around the yard and i was hoeing to try extend the Wifi within the house to the farm yard.

I seen something at the tullamore show and stupidly didnt get more details on it but essentially it was a bar that was attached out side your house and i believe was connected straight to the router to boost the signal a significat radius for the use of wifi cameras.
Also think it would be handy for the us of any other apps like herd watch which we are looking into atm.

If anyone knows anything in this area it would be great?

I want to avoid the doogle root, so atm that option is out.

Thanks,
justin

There are many options.
How far from house to yard where you want wifi?

I have workshop beside house and have run cat 5 cable from house to another domestic router in workshop, that router has a wifi bridge mode and it sends signal to another identical router in shed on opposite side of yard between them they cover the whole yard with wifi + wired Ethernet devices can be connected to either router.

The routers I have used are off the shelf domestic type bought in PC world, but wifi bridge was listed in their specs. I have also replaced their antennas with higher gain ones.

There are purpose built devices which are worth a look, ubiquiti and microtik would be well known manufacturers of such devices.

emaherx

orm0nd wrote: »

yes no problem,

Orm0nd posted this on another thread earlier and might suit your needs. But you may need 2 devices depending on strength of wifi in your router and how far you need to send signal.

jus_tin4

emaherx wrote: »

Orm0nd posted this on another thread earlier and might suit your needs. But you may need 2 devices depending on strength of wifi in your router and how far you need to send signal.

Thanks for that! That is defo in the lines of what I’m thinking. This is a bit of a side project for me, so apologies if some of my questions are basic in nature!!

I’m assuming that the devices needs clear line of sight to each other?

Ideally I’m prob looking at a couple 100 metres of WiFi connectivity, is this possible/cost effective? Or am I better just directing WiFi/internet to the the exact locations I need it?

emaherx

jus_tin4 wrote: »

Thanks for that! That is defo in the lines of what I’m thinking. This is a bit of a side project for me, so apologies if some of my questions are basic in nature!!

I’m assuming that the devices needs clear line of sight to each other?

Ideally I’m prob looking at a couple 100 metres of WiFi connectivity, is this possible/cost effective? Or am I better just directing WiFi/internet to the the exact locations I need it?

With clear line of sight 30km is possible, so you should be fine. In my experience on the point to point link of that distance line of sight is preferable but not as important however corrugated metal sheeting severely reduces signal (as do leafy trees or anything containing lots of water). So for metal roofed sheds it's better to have a device above the roof. In my case sheds are a bit closer and I'm using indoor equipment so it worked better by placing devices below roof height even though signal has to pass through a concrete wall.

orm0nd

2.4Ghz works better than 5Ghz if there are obstacles in the way.

Mortelaro

How far is the house from the yard?
Cat 5E outdoor cable works to 100 metres and is the most stable option,its what I use,I fed it through a 1/2 inch water pipe to protect it
2nd router down the yard then providing wifi there and 4 cameras including calving cameras plugged into that
Took a few hours to lay the cable and set up
You need a crimping tool to put plugs on either end
Wherever you buy it,might do.it for you either
It's very stable and crucially because the cameras are hard wired,theres no loss of signal or wifi drop off or pixeling with the picture,all proper pan tilt and zoom hd with night vision too

Edited to add,you can add another 100 metres of cat5e with full speed at the location down the yard to your camera,no drop off so works well for a camera 200 metres from the house
You can do 4 cameras off that 2nd router if it has 4 out ethernet sockets each up to 100 metres away from it or 200 metres from the house

my3cents

Mortelaro wrote: »

How far is the house from the yard?
Cat 5E outdoor cable works to 100 metres and is the most stable option,its what I use,I fed it through a 1/2 inch water pipe to protect it
2nd router down the yard then providing wifi there and 4 cameras including calving cameras plugged into that
Took a few hours to lay the cable and set up
You need a crimping tool to put plugs on either end
Wherever you buy it,might do.it for you either
It's very stable and crucially because the cameras are hard wired,theres no loss of signal or wifi drop off or pixeling with the picture,all proper pan tilt and zoom hd with night vision too

Cat 5 is also handy in this sort of setup because you can often use PoE (Power over Ethernet) to power the devices so you aren't stuck at locations with plugs and don't need to use extension cables.

emaherx

my3cents wrote: »

Cat 5 is also handy in this sort of setup because you can often use PoE (Power over Ethernet) to power the devices so you aren't stuck at locations with plugs and don't need to use extension cables.

While wired connections are the best option for speed and reliability, they are not always the most practical option. In my case the amount of concrete yard poured in the seventies make bringing Ethernet cables to where I need a big job.

Obviously I could cut channels in concrete and may do in future, but the quickest easiest route for me was to run cat 5 to buildings closest to house with wireless link to buildings across the yard. Cameras in shed across yard are all wired to that router so POE works there too.

A recommendation I'd have for anyone planning new yards is lay some sewer pipe between buildings for pulling extra cables in future.

Timmaay

Another vote for nanostations. If it wasn't for 2 nanostations here I'd still be stuck with 1/4mb Internet, that's all the land-line could offer, and no 3g in the yard. Instead I put a 3g router on the pump house which does have signal and used the nanostations to send it the 300m to the yard and house.

jus_tin4

Mortelaro wrote: »

How far is the house from the yard?
Cat 5E outdoor cable works to 100 metres and is the most stable option,its what I use,I fed it through a 1/2 inch water pipe to protect it
2nd router down the yard then providing wifi there and 4 cameras including calving cameras plugged into that
Took a few hours to lay the cable and set up
You need a crimping tool to put plugs on either end
Wherever you buy it,might do.it for you either
It's very stable and crucially because the cameras are hard wired,theres no loss of signal or wifi drop off or pixeling with the picture,all proper pan tilt and zoom hd with night vision too

Edited to add,you can add another 100 metres of cat5e with full speed at the location down the yard to your camera,no drop off so works well for a camera 200 metres from the house
You can do 4 cameras off that 2nd router if it has 4 out ethernet sockets each up to 100 metres away from it or 200 metres from the house

House is about 50/150 metres in total from the yard(if i was to try cover the furthest point for the calving shed). this is one of the main reasons im wondering about a boost/nanostation and if it can send signal in a radius to possible catch as many as possible areas i might need in one go. Perhaps this isn't feasible? im by no means skilled in this sort of thing, but I enjoy these types of projects if it is possible for me to do that is.

We were quoted approx €2k for just a night vision camera, base station and a dectection beam hence why im coming to see if its possible to do DIY with a bit help from others with more knowledge.

I can see how cat5e cables would be my best option in fairness. Just wondering have you good internet? or how are you separating the yard wifi use from the general household items?

Thanks for all the advise so far!!

Hard Knocks

Has anyone pulled Cat5 cables through a 1/2” or 1 1/2” ducting?
How many will fit?

my3cents

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Has anyone pulled Cat5 cables through a 1/2” or 1 1/2” ducting?
How many will fit?

You can only realistically get one cat5 cable through half inch ducting, inch and a half is more sensible.

Blow a string down the pipe first (plastic bag tied around some orange builders line easily goes down the pipe when you have an air line pumping into the pipe) then pull your cable through along with another string to pull the other one back.

Sacrolyte

I have ptz cameras. I have cat 5 cable. What else do I need to get this on phone/internet. It will be hard wired to house. How do I set up the dvr and what’s the connection set up at the house.

emaherx

Sacrolyte wrote: »

I have ptz cameras. I have cat 5 cable. What else do I need to get this on phone/internet. It will be hard wired to house. How do I set up the dvr and what’s the connection set up at the house.

What sort of PTZ camera/ DVR. Is camera and DVR connected via network or directly to each other with only DVR connecting to network.

I assume PTZ camera to DVR and then DVR to network. It is most likely these days to be plug and play. Network cable from DVR to your Router. Sign up for your DVRs app and job done. (This is the simplest method using a protocol called P2P there may be some security concerns with this type of connection which you can look into your self)

The DVR will also support setting up a more secure direct link but will require more manual opening of ports on your router and a static IP or dynamic DNS service.