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How long before governments start controlling our diet.

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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Sigh. Not everything is a conspiracy to oppress you, lad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    more calls from the watermelon movement pushing for veganism

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/03/ipcc-land-use-food-production-key-to-climate-crisis-leaked-report

    Just a matter of time before governments start using things like punitive taxation to control the diet of populations in order to "save the planet". The kite flying and propaganda is in full swing.

    Until they enter something like say, a sugar tax or muse about mup on gargle, I'd say never.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,587 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    There will be definately a be fat tax without doubt. Expect your snackbox's after the pub to go up in price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭Luxxis


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    Sigh. Not everything is a conspiracy to oppress you, lad.


    Only a government agent would say something like that.

    False flag posting.

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Governments are voted in on the back of popular opinion

    If someone does not like the way they are being governed they can always vote for an alternative (or set up their own "Popular People's Front" - something like that seems to have happened in the US, and that example can perhaps highlight some of the pros and cons of populism)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Technically it already exists in the form of the Food Pyramid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    OP, are you aware at all that taxation is a well-known and widely-used method available to governments to help nudge the population this way or that, usually for some general good?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Beasty wrote: »
    Governments are voted in on the back of popular opinion

    If someone does not like the way they are being governed they can always vote for an alternative (or set up their own "Popular People's Front" - something like that seems to have happened in the US, and that example can perhaps highlight some of the pros and cons of populism)

    Nobody voted for the IPCC and various watermelon groups and foundations that are pressing governments across the planet to socially engineer their populations and impoae punitive "save the planet" taxation.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Nobody voted for the IPCC and various watermelon groups and foundations that are pressing governments across the planet to socially engineer their populations and impoae punitive "save the planet" taxation.
    Maybe not, but they only lobby and cannot introduce laws. People are entitled to lobby for counter-measures if they so wish. I think though that many of these "populist" ideas are just that - they gain momentum because there is a growndswell of opinion behind them.

    Arguably that's how Trump came to power. He "inspired" people to vote for him as those voters believed he could offer them something they wanted. Of course it's ultimately a "time will tell" scenario, but it also, in my view, helps explain this extremism we now see, with almost polar opposite views predominating, and those in the middle feeling squeezed. Another few years and that "squeezed middle" may become flavour of the month again. In the meantime those who possibly want more moderation are having to put up with those extremists currently in the ascendency


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Technically it already exists in the form of the Food Pyramid.
    Didn't do the dinosaurs much good, did it?


    :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Technically it already exists in the form of the Food Pyramid.

    food pyramid, pyramid on the dollar.

    co-incidence, i think not.

    wake up people !!!!!1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 aaqil jettson


    jimgoose wrote: »
    OP, are you aware at all that taxation is a well-known and widely-used method available to governments to help nudge the population this way or that, usually for some general good?

    more tax money


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Ciggies have been taxed to the point of making the stupid smoker poor, and no harm done obviously. There will be greater taxes on various food stuffs I suspect which reflect the level of resources required. So tomatoes, courgettes, etc could become more expensive due to water needed to grow them (onions and garlic will be cheaper). It's not all about "bad" foods, it'll be about what's consumed to create food.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    jimgoose wrote: »
    OP, are you aware at all that taxation is a well-known and widely-used method available to governments to help nudge the population this way or that, usually for some general good?
    Nudge economics is not always effective, particularly with things we like. Money better off spent in overt actions like promoting the link between physical activity and diet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,314 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Hopefully it won't come to that


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