Can I drive car after failing NCT?

Bif

Hi,
My car failed an NCT last week on a lights issue ("Major Result" fail). The car had been declared off road and the previous NCT was out of date. I have now taxed the car and the lights have been repaired and needs retesting. Can I legally drive the car while waiting for the retest? Thanks.

Purgative

How do you tax it without an NCT?

Bif

Purgative wrote: »

How do you tax it without an NCT?

Online. Not required. Only asked for insurance details.

source

If you have the nct booked, I would carry the booking reference, the failed nct report and a receipt for the work done.

I know you can drive it to the garage to get the work done or to the nct centre to do the test, but don't think you're allowed to drive ordinarily, having said that, if you do what I said above you'd need to come across a right pr1ck of a guard to be done for it.

Purgative

Bif wrote: »

Online. Not required. Only asked for insurance details.

Thanks - I've learnt something.


FWIW I believe you could only drive the vehicle for a prearranged retest.

Del2005

source wrote: »

If you have the nct booked, I would carry the booking reference, the failed nct report and a receipt for the work done.

I know you can drive it to the garage to get the work done or to the nct centre to do the test, but don't think you're allowed to drive ordinarily, having said that, if you do what I said above you'd need to come across a right pr1ck of a guard to be done for it.

You can only drive home after a non dangerous failure. For anything else you need to trailer or recovery wagon a car without an NCT. Having a test booked does not make any difference. You also aren't insured if you drive a non road worthy car and without an NCT a car can't be road worthy, not that an NCT means that a car is road worthy.

colm_mcm

Bif wrote: »

Online. Not required. Only asked for insurance details.

You can tax in person without NCT too.

Patrick2010

Del2005 wrote: »

You can only drive home after a non dangerous failure. For anything else you need to trailer or recovery wagon a car without an NCT. Having a test booked does not make any difference. You also aren't insured if you drive a non road worthy car and without an NCT a car can't be road worthy, not that an NCT means that a car is road worthy.

OP I'd ignore this and just drive as you wish, this thing about needing to get a recovery truck to bring you for your retest is rubbish (imho) but gets regularly posted.

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Not isn't needed for tax, only insurance

Isambard

Patrick2010 wrote: »

OP I'd ignore this and just drive as you wish, this thing about needing to get a recovery truck to bring you for your retest is rubbish (imho) but gets regularly posted.

the advice being given is the strict letter of the Law. Ignore it at your own risk.

Regrettably it's your advice that is rubbish

Patrick2010

I've never seen a recovery truck taking a car for an NCT retest. Has anyone here ever actually done this?. In the real world can anyone imagine a guard giving someone who has a booked retest and proof of repair a ticket?

Byron Thousands Plan

Byron Thousands Plan wrote: »

Not isn't needed for tax, only insurance

insurance isn't needed either

mgbgt1978

Some Insurers will insist on a current NCT Cert.....some won't.

Isambard

he means you can tax it without it being insured, apparently you can just fill in random insurance details.

Del2005

Patrick2010 wrote: »

I've never seen a recovery truck taking a car for an NCT retest. Has anyone here ever actually done this?. In the real world can anyone imagine a guard giving someone who has a booked retest and proof of repair a ticket?

Loads of people break red lights or use their phone will driving would you advise others to do the same? Because driving without a valid NCT is a bigger offence than either of them.

No insurance is 5 penalty points and a court appearance. No NCT and you aren't insured as a vehicle has to be road worthy to be insured and it can't be road worthy without an NCT, not that an NCT means that the vehicle is road worthy.

wonski

If you fail on lights and fix it, the vehicle is roadworthy imo .

I doubt the nct fail invalidates insurance.

That is just your opinion.

In many policies I signed the insurance company use the phrase the vehicle must be roadworthy eg has a valid nct.

Eg is a key here. It isn't the only condition. Just an example.

Del2005

wonski wrote: »

If you fail on lights and fix it, the vehicle is roadworthy imo .

I doubt the nct fail invalidates insurance.

That is just your opinion.

In many policies I signed the insurance company use the phrase the vehicle must be roadworthy eg has a valid nct.

Eg is a key here. It isn't the only condition. Just an example.

A vehicle isn't road legal without a valid NCT, so it's not roadworthy. So how can you be insured if the vehicle can't be road worthy without a valid NCT?

It doesn't matter if you fix the failure, or haven't bothered to get it tested, once the NCT is expired you can't drive apart from 2 specific exemptions.

wonski

Del2005 wrote: »

A vehicle isn't road legal without a valid NCT, so it's not roadworthy. So how can you be insured if the vehicle can't be road worthy without a valid NCT?

It doesn't matter if you fix the failure, or haven't bothered to get it tested, once the NCT is expired you can't drive apart from 2 specific exemptions.

LOL.

Seriously. That would mean that every single car leaving the nct place with fail on the sheet would be uninsured. Because failing nct means the car is not roadworthy.

I failed on low power steering fluid level lately. Should have rang the tow truck instead of just driving away.

Could have been banned for this. Rightly so.

Actually going with your logic all new cars are uninsured because they have no nct

Because the vehicle is not road legal

Dr_Colossus

I was failed a couple of months ago because the tester deemed the indicator bulbs weren't orange enough, they were both working and orange but deemed not orange enough for the tester. Told him he was being pertinacity and he must have been short on his fail count for the day and drove away with the "major fail" on the test sheet.

Seth Brundle

Patrick2010 wrote: »

I've never seen a recovery truck taking a car for an NCT retest. Has anyone here ever actually done this?. In the real world can anyone imagine a guard giving someone who has a booked retest and proof of repair a ticket?

I've used a tow truck to bring a car to the Tallaght centre. The car was taxed and uninsured but there are too many ANPR cars for me to want the hassle!
I prefer to live life without looking over my shoulder!

mgbgt1978

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

I was failed a couple of months ago because the tester deemed the indicator bulbs weren't orange enough, they were both working and orange but deemed not orange enough for the tester. Told him he was being pertinacity and he must have been short on his fail count for the day and drove away with the "major fail" on the test sheet.

Why wouldn't you drive away ? You're perfectly entitled to do so.

It was not a 'Failed Dangerous' issue.

Dr_Colossus

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

Why wouldn't you drive away ? You're perfectly entitled to do so.

It was not a 'Failed Dangerous' issue.

I did drive away but the car was still deemed not to be road worthy as I wasn't given a valid NCT cert. Might have been a whole load of hassle if there was an accident and I had no NCT. I guess that's why most road users don't use their indicators, to save the bulbs in case the orange coating fades.

tobsey

Del2005 wrote: »

A vehicle isn't road legal without a valid NCT, so it's not roadworthy. So how can you be insured if the vehicle can't be road worthy without a valid NCT?

It doesn't matter if you fix the failure, or haven't bothered to get it tested, once the NCT is expired you can't drive apart from 2 specific exemptions.

The insurance company may not pay out your own claim on a comprehensive policy but they absolutely will pay a third party claim. It’s only third party insurance that’s required to drive on the roads so you are insured from a legal point of view.

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Patrick2010 wrote: »

I've never seen a recovery truck taking a car for an NCT retest. Has anyone here ever actually done this?. In the real world can anyone imagine a guard giving someone who has a booked retest and proof of repair a ticket?

Friend of mine wasn't allowed drive car after this type of NCT fail, not even permitted to leave the test centre in the car and could only have it towed away to be repaired.

J.R.

Patrick2010 wrote: »

In the real world can anyone imagine a guard giving someone who has a booked retest and proof of repair a ticket?

If on the way for the retest the car crashed - Gardaí called - how then do you think the Garda would treat it.........just ignore it?

9935452

tobsey wrote: »

The insurance company may not pay out your own claim on a comprehensive policy but they absolutely will pay a third party claim. It’s only third party insurance that’s required to drive on the roads so you are insured from a legal point of view.

Ive said the same before and still agree.



But wait for the 'the insurance company can cancel your policy' brigade for non disclosure/ not following terms and conditions and seek to recover costs

mgbgt1978

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

I did drive away but the car was still deemed not to be road worthy as I wasn't given a valid NCT cert. Might have been a whole load of hassle if there was an accident and I had no NCT. I guess that's why most road users don't use their indicators, to save the bulbs in case the orange coating fades.

Had your current NCT expired at this stage ?
If not, then it would still be valid.

Isambard

9935452 wrote: »

Ive said the same before and still agree.



But wait for the 'the insurance company can cancel your policy' brigade for non disclosure/ not following terms and conditions and seek to recover costs

but is it the case that they are paying on an ex gratia basis rather than admitting liability?

I think it's quite possible that a Policy might state it is nul and void with no NCT and if this is the case, notwithstanding them paying a third party claim, you could well be deemed uninsured and prosecuted.

Del2005

Elisabeth Ambitious Rehabilitation wrote: »

Friend of mine wasn't allowed drive car after this type of NCT fail, not even permitted to leave the test centre in the car and could only have it towed away to be repaired.

They have started to recover these 3rd party payouts from the driver who wasn't insured, since its a civil case the insurance companies always win.

Cerco

Patrick2010 wrote: »

I've never seen a recovery truck taking a car for an NCT retest. Has anyone here ever actually done this?. In the real world can anyone imagine a guard giving someone who has a booked retest and proof of repair a ticket?

I witnessed an NCT official impounding a car at a test centre. The young lady was told to get a breakdown truck and have it brought to her mechanic. Any attempt to drive it would result in a report to the Gardaí.
The fault detected related to brakes. She was left to walk out of the centre trying to arrange a lift.

greasepalm

The amount of drivers who know nothing about cars,regular servicing and just put oil and water in.We had a customer in for brake noise and when inspecting it all 4 wheels off rear brake pad was metal on metal for weeks and getting worse omg.
Front discs worn with 1/8 of wear left and told they were needing replacing she refused to get the front done,think she still drives on worn brakes and told her of tragic events if keeping driving.Back brakes discs and pads replaced when in .