External House Painting - first coat

upyaboyanow

Hi,
Im looking at painting my house this year. House is 5 years old and has never been painted before.

Iv got a guy to price it , and price is good, but I asked would he be putting an undercoat on it first, and he said no need for an undercoat, as they would put a "pva bonding" in the paint, and then one coat would be enough.

Is this correct / sufficient?

jmBuildExt

I dunno to be honest im sure someone will get back to you - dok_golf seems to know alot about painting
BUt reminds me of a guy who was doing/had done a load of houses on the road i was living on (plenty of elderly residents) and knocked on mine asking did I want mine done. He told me the paint he uses is german and it would insulate the house aswell

Calahonda52

upyaboyanow wrote: »

Hi,
Im looking at painting my house this year. House is 5 years old and has never been painted before.

Iv got a guy to price it , and price is good, but I asked would he be putting an undercoat on it first, and he said no need for an undercoat, as they would put a "pva bonding" in the paint, and then one coat would be enough.

Is this correct / sufficient?

Complete & utter ....ox with the PVA in the paint.

In passing, why paint it, its just more work down the road, especially if its a jerry job

chuck eastwood

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Complete & utter ....ox with the PVA in the paint.

In passing, why paint it, its just more work down the road, especially if its a jerry job

Go into the likes of Johnstones or AIC in tallaght. They suppliers of the paint will tell you exactly what should be done with the product. I'm not doubting your painter but I've had two new homes painted and both painters put on two coats with the first coat having pva mixed in. Get more quotes and advice

upyaboyanow

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Complete & utter ....ox with the PVA in the paint.

In passing, why paint it, its just more work down the road, especially if its a jerry job

so are you saying 2 coats needed? Yes or no?

I dont even know what PVA is , so hard to argue with them.

upyaboyanow

chuck eastwood wrote: »

Go into the likes of Johnstones or AIC in tallaght. They suppliers of the paint will tell you exactly what should be done with the product. I'm not doubting your painter but I've had two new homes painted and both painters put on two coats with the first coat having pva mixed in. Get more quotes and advice

im living in Limerick . Any good suppliers down here?

What is PVA by the way?!

jmBuildExt

PVA... as in the glue kids use for arts n crafts...

romaderwdcsax

2 coats is needed on a never before painted exterior masonry.
Make sure your painter adds a product call floetrol into the 1st coat paint, it’s makes much better adhesion to walls.
On cills and capping which would be mass concrete, a 1st coat of alkali resisting primer is needed, then 2 coats of your chosen colour.
Pat Mcdonnell paints for all your materials in limerick would be the place to go

chuck eastwood

upyaboyanow wrote: »

so are you saying 2 coats needed? Yes or no?

I dont even know what PVA is , so hard to argue with them.

Its Not hard to argue or ask why when it's your house. Again every dedicated paint store or supplier will give you advice but a lot depends on the paint you have picked. Google paint suppliers near you and drop in. You might even get your paint cheaper. Madness not to speak to some one in person if you are unsure

Rows Grower

Maybe these lads have moved on to painting walls?

https://www.facebook.com/andy.cash.334/videos/697201737094414/?t=1

Lex Luthor

I had to paint ours last year
Not the first time
Slight change of colour, little darker but needed 2 coats
Doubt even on a first off paint one coat would be enough

Czhornet

My house was 7 years old before I painted it, one gable wall was getting dirty with algae starting to appear. I lightly power washed it, put some Mosgo algae killer on it and left it for a month. Then the whole house got a coat of Pliolite, its an oil based under coat for new walls, it was tinted to roughly the same colour as the main walls. Then 2 coats of Dulux after that. That was 5 years ago and it still looks like the day it was done.

upyaboyanow

romaderwdcsax wrote: »

2 coats is needed on a never before painted exterior masonry.
Make sure your painter adds a product call floetrol into the 1st coat paint, it’s makes much better adhesion to walls.
On cills and capping which would be mass concrete, a 1st coat of alkali resisting primer is needed, then 2 coats of your chosen colour.
Pat Mcdonnell paints for all your materials in limerick would be the place to go

Thanks for that romaderwdcsax.
Did you use any of that "Pliolite" which Czhornet is recommended below?

romaderwdcsax

upyaboyanow wrote: »

Thanks for that romaderwdcsax.
Did you use any of that "Pliolite" which Czhornet is recommended below?

I’ve only ever used pliolite paint on interior mass concrete in large areas on building sites.
It would work perfectly on exterior of houses, but weather shield would be the most popular exterior paint.