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Best place for traditional Irish food?

  • 03-08-2019 2:33pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,836 ✭✭✭


    We’ve had best kebab, burger establishments etc but what somewhere in the city centre for traditional Irish food - stew, coddle etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    I've heard the Boxty House in Temple Bar getting good reviews for stews and coddle.
    Not sure if our 'traditional' cuisine is one to be lauded.
    Our food produce, however, is world class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    The Bankers always did the traditional stuff very well and reasonably priced.

    Our traditional food deserves to be lauded as much as any other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    We’ve had best kebab, burger establishments etc but what somewhere in the city centre for traditional Irish food - stew, coddle etc

    Your gaf..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,836 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    not yet wrote: »
    Your gaf..

    Ha! The query was for visitors but I’m under pressure next week to deliver. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Ha! The query was for visitors but I’m under pressure next week to deliver. :D

    O'Neills Suffolk st. Great pub, good music and very, very good corn beef and cabbage, Stew, Coddle etc...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭This is it


    not yet wrote: »
    O'Neills Suffolk st. Great pub, good music and very, very good corn beef and cabbage, Stew, Coddle etc...

    Great pint as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    The Boxty House is actually very decent. It caters to foreign tourists, but isn’t yet another overpriced Temple Bar tourist trap. Simple Irish food cooked well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭jay1988


    The Oval on Abbey St. used to do an amazing Irish Stew, been a while since i was in there so not sure what its like now but it still seems to always be busy which must be a good sign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Could we put the humble toastie as traditional Irish food too I wonder?
    Put Grogans and a pint of plain on the map so :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Portsalon


    I don't really understand the urge to eat platefuls of lumper potatoes washed down with copious amounts buttermilk, but hey! whatever turns you on!

    https://www.dochara.com/the-irish/food-history/food-in-ireland-1600-1835/


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  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Our traditional food deserves to be lauded as much as any other.
    Coddle is boiled sausages, rashers and potatoes. Poor quality, tasteless food that presumably relies on nostalgia for its very existence.

    It's hardly in the same category as coq au vin or lobster with linguine and a garlic and tomato sauce.

    Coddle should have gone the way of the slums. Inedible rubbish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,974 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Coddle is boiled sausages, rashers and potatoes. Poor quality, tasteless food that presumably relies on nostalgia for its very existence.

    It's hardly in the same category as coq au vin or lobster with linguine and a garlic and tomato sauce.

    Coddle should have gone the way of the slums. Inedible rubbish.

    See yourself out of this forum immediately!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Coddle is boiled sausages, rashers and potatoes. Poor quality, tasteless food that presumably relies on nostalgia for its very existence.

    It's hardly in the same category as coq au vin or lobster with linguine and a garlic and tomato sauce.

    Coddle should have gone the way of the slums. Inedible rubbish.

    In other words a 'Mickey stew'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭vandriver


    The Bachelor Inn on Bachelor's Walk does all that kind of food.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,067 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    The Jockeys in Dundalk do food like this. Irish Stew, bacon and cabbage, liver and bacon etc all with nice floury jacket potatoes or mash. Good portions too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    Coddle is boiled sausages, rashers and potatoes. Poor quality, tasteless food that presumably relies on nostalgia for its very existence.

    It's hardly in the same category as coq au vin or lobster with linguine and a garlic and tomato sauce.

    Coddle should have gone the way of the slums. Inedible rubbish.

    Ah yes, I can picture the Italian peasantry sitting around tucking into the ould lobsters.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah yes, I can picture the Italian peasantry sitting around tucking into the ould lobsters.
    They did! Lobsters were traditionally food for the poor! Rich people wouldn't have touched them. People thought eating lobster was a bit like eating an grossly oversized insect.

    Going back to the topic at hand, Dublin shouldn't shoulder all the blame, in fairness. Most traditional Irish food is just as unpalatable. The traditional stew is a minor improvement, if only because the ingredients tend to be more diverse and the meat, whether lamb or beef, is better quality.

    I know this is true of all world cuisines to some extent, but a lot of the food that are described as traditional Irish 'cuisine' would be unrecognizable to the inhabitants of this country only 50 ot 150 years ago ago, whose diets (if they were middle class) would be mostly stew, potatoes and milk, or if they were poor, potatoes, bread and milk, or even whey instead of milk. Maybe herring, if they lived near the sea.

    That's traditional Irish food. You might as well add alligator to an Irish dish as add chilli, goats' cheese or even garlic to it. When I see places like Boxty opening up, I think Yeah fair play, but the only reason that food is edible is because it completely rejects the reality of traditional local food.

    Soda/ brown bread, and other breads like blaa, are perhaps the only traditional foods that have stayed recognisable and can be really delicious.

    It does seem strange that such a productive, agrarian society developed such a poor cuisine, when very similar economic conditions existed in rural France until the 20th century, and their cuisine has huge diversity.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    My granny (born 1914) used to be amused at people serving salmon at a wedding. When she was young, it was what the really really poor people ate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,067 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    spurious wrote: »
    My granny (born 1914) used to be amused at people serving salmon at a wedding. When she was young, it was what the really really poor people ate.

    Brandy too was very cheap until they upped it’s image.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    We used to dig up cockles on the beach (a pain in the arse) having walked across beds of mussels and ignored them!


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  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We used to dig up cockles on the beach (a pain in the arse) having walked across beds of mussels and ignored them!
    The Mizen peninsula was one of the most devastated parts of Ireland during The Great Famine, at a time when the seas around it were (and still are) teeming with fish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    I've heard the Boxty House in Temple Bar getting good reviews for stews and coddle.
    Not sure if our 'traditional' cuisine is one to be lauded.
    Our food produce, however, is world class.

    Ive never been and it does seem to get good reviews but how traditional is boxty? Dont think its a Dublin thing anyway. I dont know of anyone that used to have it.

    May well be a culshie thing 😂

    The Pigs ear do a modern take on irish food if thats really a thing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭disposableFish


    how traditional is boxty? Dont think its a Dublin thing anyway.

    It's is in the cavan/leitrim/longford type area.

    There's a few different types, depending on the area but the wrap things they serve aren't traditional at all, they look more like dosas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭disposableFish


    Traditional Irish food is not having any...

    Really though, whatever culinary traditions we may have had were killed off.

    When you see "traditional Irish food", it's one of the following:

    - Inedible blandness (coddle, I'm looking at you here)
    - traditional dishes that have been changed beyond all recognition (eg. you can find coddle in some places that tastes ok, this is because it isn't coddle).
    - things we think are traditionally irish but aren't really (most anything involving meat, which people wouldn't have been able to afford).
    - The very occasional thing like boxty or blaa which are actually nice-ish (...that might be a complete list)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,332 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Chicken fillet roll - Spar
    Spicebag - any Chinese


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Some serious embellishment going on here!

    https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/collection/irish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    Brought my foreign friends to madigans in o connell street for Irish food. What a mistake! It was worse than microwave dinners. Absolute dirt.

    To be fair, it's my own fault, I don't eat "Irish food" out so haven't a clue where to get a good meal. I'll definitely be taking some tips here and getting a hearty meal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,974 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Never tried either but supposedly J.W Sweetman's is a good spot for food - they have 5 (2 are debatable) trad Irish options on the menu. Also never tried the stew in Toners Pub but it looked and smelled unreal when I was in there last, not sure what else they do.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    It's been a few years since I visited, but The Shack in Temple bar was deemed 'very nice' by Mammy Spurious. They do 'traditional'* Irish food as well as more exotic fare.
    https://www.shackrestaurant.ie/food/a-la-carte-menu/


    *may or may not actually be


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Portsalon



    They did! Lobsters were traditionally food for the poor! Rich people wouldn't have touched them. People thought eating lobster was a bit like eating an grossly oversized insect.

    True. And in Victorian times, the main source of protein for the poorest Londoners was oysters! Hence, as Charles Dicken wrote Poverty and oysters always seem to go together."


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