Another roundabout question

Comhrá

This roundabout is local to me and I can never be totally sure which lane to use when driving through it in the direction of the red line, onto the Cratloe Road.

The exit is, strictly speaking, after the 12 o'clock position, whereby you'd normally use the inside lane. There are no road markings for guidance as to what lane to use. Drivers are using both lanes about 50/50.

forzacalcio

3rd exit. Inside lane no?

colm_mcm

Right hand lane, indicating right, clowns that can’t use this roundabout hold up traffic from caherdavin.

jaxxx

forzacalcio wrote: »

3rd exit. Inside lane no?

Sweet jesus.. the number of the exit does not dictate which lane you take :mad:


Anyways.. .. .. by that image I would suggest right hand lane as you quite rightly said, it's past 12 o'clock. But when driving you don't have the obvious top down look, so I'm not surprised so many people take both lanes for it. There really should be road markings.

That's the roundabout by LIT isnt it?

Comhrá

That's what I thought, but frequently when I take the inside lane, there's another car beside me on the outside lane exiting onto the Cratloe road and there's always a risk of causing a collision when I exit onto the same road.

It's one of those awkward roundabouts where extra care is needed as no-one seems sure which lane to use.

colm_mcm

The standard of driving in Limerick city is very poor at the best of times.

Comhrá

jaxxx wrote: »

Sweet jesus.. the number of the exit does not dictate which lane you take :mad:


Anyways.. .. .. by that image I would suggest right hand lane as you quite rightly said, it's past 12 o'clock. But when driving you don't have the obvious top down look, so I'm not surprised so many people take both lanes for it. There really should be road markings.

That's the roundabout by LIT isnt it?

Yeah, that's it. It can be a tricky one at times.

artanevilla

Inside lane for me, indicating right on entry.

testarossa40

Rules of the Road fyi, OP - pgs 132-135.
https://www.rsa.ie/Documents/RotR%20BOOK%20for%20web%202019.pdf

Comhrá

I was behind the Guards yesterday and they drove around on the outside lane, but they're not necessarily the greatest drivers on the road anyway.

jaxxx

colm_mcm wrote: »

The standard of driving in Limerick city is very poor at the best of times.

Amen to that. Though to be fair it's the same no matter where you go, in all countries. Speaking of roundabouts, the one that grinds my gears is the one you take to head onto the M7/take you to the tunnel near the Crescent, just before Old Crescent rugby club. The amount of times I've nearly been crashed into because people take the right lane to go straight ahead to the other roundabout to go M20 Cork side.. .. .. argh! It's literally even signposted that it's a 12 o'clock exit. Although to be fair, it would make so much more sense if they forced the right lane to be for that exit, and the left for Rosbrien Road/M20 city bound, would help break up the traffic when it's busy there.

^ I say left and right because I can never remember which lane is outside and inside! ¬_¬

Comhrá

testarossa40 wrote: »

Rules of the Road fyi, OP - pgs 132-135.
https://www.rsa.ie/Documents/RotR%20BOOK%20for%20web%202019.pdf

Diagram on the right seems to cover the situation I asked about.

jaxxx

Comhra wrote: »

Diagram on the right seems to cover the situation I asked about.

Yup that's it, spot on. Exactly like a clock face:



Between 6 and 12 (including 12): left lane.
Anything after 12: right lane.


So simple, and yet SO MANY FAIL TO GRASP IT. Dunno if it's all their fault though, I'm guessing they were just taught poorly.

Comhrá

jaxxx wrote: »

Yup that's it, spot on. Exactly like a clock face:



Between 6 and 12 (including 12): left lane.
Anything after 12: right lane.


So simple, and yet SO MANY FAIL TO GRASP IT. Dunno if it's all their fault though, I'm guessing they were just taught poorly.

A few simple road markings would help greatly where certain junctions aren't completely straightforward.

jaxxx

Comhra wrote: »

A few simple road markings would help greatly where certain junctions aren't completely straightforward.

True, but even then a lot of people would just ignore them. As I always say, you can't prevent stupid. That's why I'm so glad I've a dash cam!


Actually good example of the above, the roundabout at the Raheen Industrial Estate. When you're exiting from the estate, there are road markings there (faded throughout the years but were painted over recently enough) that indicates that left is for 6 o'clock only, right lane for 12 and beyond. Guess how many people heed by these markings when exiting at 12? :cool:

pippip

How many lanes when entering and exiting?

Martin567

jaxxx wrote: »

^ I say left and right because I can never remember which lane is outside and inside! ¬_¬

It's only very recently that I've discovered this is a thing!

It's always seemed obvious to me that the left hand lane is the inside lane and the right hand lane the outside. Otherwise you would be pulling out to the inside lane to overtake and then pulling back into the outside lane afterwards!!

I had to google 'which lane is the inside lane?' before posting this just to check I haven't been wrong all these years and thankfully I'm right in this case.

colm_mcm

pippip wrote: »

How many lanes when entering and exiting?

2 lanes on entry and 1 lane on exit for bottom left (caherdavin) 1 lane in and out of old cratloe road, 1 lane in and out of college, 2 lanes on entry from city centre, 1 on exit to city centre (marked cratloe rd on map)

Marcusm

artanevilla wrote: »

Inside lane for me, indicating right on entry.

Inside lane indicating right meaning that you acknowledge you are taking the last exit? Who is the outside lane for in your world? People doing an effective u-turn?

L'prof

It depends on how the junction is marked up in the toad signage op. Sometimes exits that are past 12 o clock are actually marked as straight ahead on the signage. If that was the case I would be using the left hand lane. Otherwise the inside lane on the right

El Nacho

What's even funnier is the driving test centre is just off one of those exits!

The ariel view is even more damning than the map view. The right hand lane should be used there no doubt.

jaxxx

El Nacho wrote: »

What's even funnier is the driving test centre is just off one of those exits!

The ariel view is even more damning than the map view. The right hand lane should be used there no doubt.

Hmm. I see your aerial and map views, and raise you.. .. .. 1ST PERSON VIEW! Or is it 3rd person because we're not actually there.. .. .. Anyway it's at 1 o'clock so right hand lane (or.. outside lane is it? I keep forgetting which is inside/outside!) and as you can see, no roadsigns.



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hi5

The aerial view is pointless (unless your a bird), it's how it appears on the approach sign that matters.
The approach sign in this case shows the exit is to the right, so you get in the right lane.

https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.6734173,-8.6491069,3a,15y,60.9h,92.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-OgpAWb4xN_VapFBNjJoKw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656