They never lost an umbrella.

Your Face

Earlier, I called into a small pub I haven't been in years.

It was always full of eccentrics, not characters, but people who lived their lives according to their own lights. Actors, workers, musicians, gamblers, poets, dodgy feckers etc.
There was an old stage where bands and sometimes plays were put on.
There were stories. Stories of things that happened.

Well now the seats are comfortable and the toilets are clean. The shelves are full of meaningless memorabilia of events that never happened. The pictures on the wall of people who were never there.
The bar staff all look interesting but they're just a haircut away from being boring.
Instead of individuals, it's a collection of people with a 'look'.
Of course times change and businesses need to make money.
I just wonder where all the eccentric people went.

ILoveYourVibes

How does the umbrella figure into this?

Also isn't that an odd funny word?

My mom's dad used to forget the word for umbrella a lot. I mean you would never think it would be called that.

It German its called a Regenschirm which means rain shield. Which is logical and useful for remembering what's called. There is like a link to what its called in your mind.


The yiddish word is regnshirem.

Its weirdness is because its a loan word from Italian. From ombra (shade) and latin Umbra.

The russian zontik is also a loan word from dutch 'zonnedak' which is a sun parasol or sun canopy.

Its a funny old word to try to remember.

kneemos

Depression periods allow time for characters. These days they're just drunks.

ToddyDoody

Yeats was a great Irish eccentric that has very scant reference in the culture.

He saw the face of God, it drove him a little mad. Many nowadays would wish he'd stfu.

ILoveYourVibes

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Yeats was a great Irish eccentric that has very scant reference in the culture.

He saw the face of God, it drove him a little mad. Many nowadays would wish he'd stfu.

He spells it Yates dude! :rolleyes:

ToddyDoody

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

He spells it Yates dude! :rolleyes:

If there's silence that needs filling, its Newstalk 106.

Badly Drunk Boy

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Also isn't that an odd funny word?

My mom's dad used to forget the word for umbrella a lot. I mean you would never think it would be called that.

It German its called a Regenschirm which means rain shield. Which is logical and useful for remembering what's called. There is like a link to what its called in your mind.

Its weirdness is because its a loan word from Italian. From ombra (shade) and latin Umbra.

Its a funny old word to try to remember.

Why would it be it so hard to remember, other than your own personal knowledge of language? As you said yourself, it comes from 'shade', shade from the sun (originally) and then from the rain.

ILoveYourVibes

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

Why would it be it so hard to remember, other than your own personal knowledge of language? As you said yourself, it comes from 'shade', shade from the sun (originally) and then from the rain.

It doesn't come from the English language itself. It comes from a latin root word.

For people learning English loan words are often hard to remember.

They don't link to any other ideas in the English language itself.

Its not a sunscreen its not a rainsheild.

It doesn't even sound at all English. It sounds very very italian. UmBRELLA say it with an exaggerated Luigi style stereotypical Italian accent. Its SUCH an Italian word! It doesn't even sound like it should be English.

I mean how could your brain be switched to English and remember that??

And zontik is borrowed from the Dutch ..it so SOUNDS like its yiddish. I mean i almost want to demand a change!

But ombrai for shade in English would be hard to remember.
For those who have trouble.

'Ombrai Mai Fu' 'Never Was There Shade'. So you can get some. :pac:

Airyfairy12

Go into any pub and you'll find dodgy feckers, gamblers and people who write poetry and music.
Im not sure what lost umbrellas have to do with it?
Di you talk to anyone in the pub? Maybe if you got talking to them they mightned seem so boring.

ILoveYourVibes

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Go into any pub and you'll find dodgy feckers, gamblers and people who write poetry and music.

They are not exactly rare are they?

I think they might be boring!

But then so am I!

ILoveYourVibes

Deja Boo wrote: »

The Lost Umbrella, 1912

“I never lost an umbrella..."

That was painful.

ILoveYourVibes

Deja Boo wrote: »

Well, I suspect it's where the saying comes from anyway. :rolleyes:

You didn't love the vibes*?
(seems we have been here before deja vu perhaps?)



*Username doesnae check out.

That was the most boring short story i have ever read.


The people were boring, the language was boring. My brain is flat lining.

What saying??? WUT IS U TALKIN ABOOT???

ILoveYourVibes

Deja Boo wrote: »

The last line of the story you didn't like.
The thread title.

:rolleyes:

Wut has it to do with original post?

U not making sense!

It wasn't the punchline it was the whole long drawn out boring story about people I dont care about. I mean you can tell the whole thing was probably the most interesting thing that every happened to those people.

Innocent child and a lost umbrella. Add some rabbit holes and then we can talk i need some SAUCE in my life!

ILoveYourVibes

Deja Boo wrote: »

U mean the same way your entertaining :rolleyes: history of the umbrella had to do with the original post? YOU LOST ME AT THE UMBRELLA!




I was replying to ^ the inquiries as to the possibility of the umbrella metaphor, in the OP's title. The punch line in the story IS the OP's title.

Consider this, a performer on stage tells a joke when a heckler yells "you lost me at the umbrella" ...since there are no umbrellas on stage it suggests the joke is boring to her, that she doesn't get it. Umbrella could be anything that is irrelevant to the performance... As is mentioned in the opening post.

Also, a quote from Orange is the New Black.

Its a brolly.:pac:

blinding

Your Face wrote: »

Earlier, I called into a small pub I haven't been in years.

It was always full of eccentrics, not characters, but people who lived their lives according to their own lights. Actors, workers, musicians, gamblers, poets, dodgy feckers etc.
There was an old stage where bands and sometimes plays were put on.
There were stories. Stories of things that happened.

Well now the seats are comfortable and the toilets are clean. The shelves are full of meaningless memorabilia of events that never happened. The pictures on the wall of people who were never there.
The bar staff all look interesting but they're just a haircut away from being boring.
Instead of individuals, it's a collection of people with a 'look'.
Of course times change and businesses need to make money.
I just wonder where all the eccentric people went.

You could add some character to the place with a murder !

If you don’t wan to go that far just get a dead body and fake a murder .

That kind of thing brings people together ( for fear they are next )

Probably explains the sacrificing.......

ILoveYourVibes

blinding wrote: »

You could add some character to the place with a murder !

If you don’t wan to go that far just get a dead body and fake a murder .

That kind of thing brings people together ( for fear they are next )

Probably explains the sacrificing.......

My GOD ITS GENIUS!

Autecher

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

It sounds very very italian. UmBRELLA say it with an exaggerated Luigi style stereotypical Italian accent. Its SUCH an Italian word! It doesn't even sound like it should be English.

It's probably because I was such a Super Mario fan when I was a kid but I still as a 36 year old man regularly say things to myself in a terrible exaggerated stereotypical Italian accent and do you know what ILYV? It makes every word funnier, EVERY SINGLE WORD! I will probably pass this racist tradition on to my nieces so they can give the eulogy at my funeral entirely in that same exaggerated stereotypical Italian accent. I can think of no finer send off....

ILoveYourVibes

Autecher wrote: »

It's probably because I was such a Super Mario fan when I was a kid but I still as a 36 year old man regularly say things to myself in a terrible exaggerated stereotypical Italian accent and do you know what ILYV? It makes every word funnier, EVERY SINGLE WORD! I will probably pass this racist tradition on to my nieces so they can give the eulogy at my funeral entirely in that same exaggerated stereotypical Italian accent. I can think of no finer send off....

That's beautiful.

Autecher

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I think they might be boring!

But then so am I!

Also, I think we talked about this a few days ago but you are certainly not boring. You have a lot of knowledge in that head of yours and you express it in a very entertaining way in my opinion. Though did you stay up all night on Boards last night? You're name is everywhere on After Hours. Get some sleep ILoveYourVibes, we're not going anywhere, we will still be here when you wake up

Badly Drunk Boy

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

It doesn't come from the English language itself. It comes from a latin root word.

For people learning English loan words are often hard to remember.

They don't link to any other ideas in the English language itself.

Its not a sunscreen its not a rainsheild.

It doesn't even sound at all English. It sounds very very italian. UmBRELLA say it with an exaggerated Luigi style stereotypical Italian accent. Its SUCH an Italian word! It doesn't even sound like it should be English.

I mean how could your brain be switched to English and remember that??

The whole English language is a big auld mongrel, largely from Latin or Greek (plus old Germanic languages), but plenty of other contributers too. Since you have a problem with 'umbrella', do words like 'ballerina' or 'malaria', and 'lottery' freak you out too, also being from Italian?

There are plenty of Irish words in the English language too. 'Clock' is probably the most used, coming from the Old Irish for 'bell' (which religious folk used to mark the passing of time). It's nearly 8 o'clock, so time to put the kibosh on this (an chaip bháis).

biko

I spoke to a fella in such a pub. He was ok dressed but quite drunk.

He was writing a book.
I asked what he was going to name it.

"Upper echelon business management with an Agile approach"

ILoveYourVibes

Autecher wrote: »

Also, I think we talked about this a few days ago but you are certainly not boring. You have a lot of knowledge in that head of yours and you express it in a very entertaining way in my opinion. Though did you stay up all night on Boards last night? You're name is everywhere on After Hours. Get some sleep ILoveYourVibes, we're not going anywhere, we will still be here when you wake up

Snog shu snog shu

zzzz

champchamp

What is going on?
Are they my feet?

Franz Von Peppercorn II

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Yeats was a great Irish eccentric that has very scant reference in the culture.

He saw the face of God, it drove him a little mad. Many nowadays would wish he'd stfu.

Don’t think yeats has been forgotten.

ILoveYourVibes

champchamp wrote: »

What is going on?
Are they my feet?

Sorry I'll stop tickling them.

blinding

biko wrote: »

I spoke to a fella in such a pub. He was ok dressed but quite drunk.

He was writing a book.
I asked what he was going to name it.

"Upper echelon business management with an Agile approach"

Catchy but not quite Ketchup !

Day Lewin

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

How does the umbrella figure into this?

Also isn't that an odd funny word?

My mom's dad used to forget the word for umbrella a lot. I mean you would never think it would be called that.

It German its called a Regenschirm which means rain shield. Which is logical and useful for remembering what's called. There is like a link to what its called in your mind.


The yiddish word is regnshirem.

Its weirdness is because its a loan word from Italian. From ombra (shade) and latin Umbra.

The russian zontik is also a loan word from dutch 'zonnedak' which is a sun parasol or sun canopy.

Its a funny old word to try to remember.

Because the OP is set in a pub, I assumed that it was a reference to this excellent short story:

https://www.roalddahlfans.com/dahls-work/short-stories/the-umbrella-man/

odyssey06

John McGahern was a great writer for capturing some of the eccentrics around Dublin pubs, or maybe it was the other way around, and the pubs themselves brought out the eccentricities - Parachutes especially.

And he even wrote a short story called "My Love, My Umbrella"

Tammy!

Was there a piano man there op?

blinding

Would a ‘ Go Fund Me “ to spend the rest of my life investigating ( thoroughly ) eccentric types in pubs be at all , a tiny bit pretentious .

One feels its only polite to ask .

jester77

I know some people who say um-ber-ella
wtf is with that.

Anyone remember the air umbrella... now that was a bad idea

blinding

jester77 wrote: »

I know some people who say um-ber-ella
wtf is with that.

Anyone remember the air umbrella... now that was a bad idea

A rain umbrella sounds more sensible alright or at a pinch a sunny sunshine umbrella .

odyssey06

jester77 wrote: »

I know some people who say um-ber-ella
wtf is with that.

Anyone remember the air umbrella... now that was a bad idea

Looks a bit ah eccentric to me!

Air Umbrella Creates "Force Field" That Keeps You Dry

https://www.iflscience.com/technology/air-umbrella-may-revolutionize-dealing-rainy-days/

Autecher

jester77 wrote: »

I know some people who say um-ber-ella

You know Rihanna?

if you meet one boring person you met a boring person

if everyone you meet is boring....

odyssey06

[Deleted User] wrote: »

if you meet one boring person you met a boring person
if everyone you meet is boring....

They are probably 3 drinks ahead.

This thread kind of reminds me of a story about Patrick Kavanagh, it was commented about him its just as well he didn't live long enough to ruin his reputation.

There is a fine line between eccentric and annoying crank.

looksee

The rain, it raineth on the just,
And also on the unjust fella,
But mostly on the just, because
The unjust hath the just's umbrella.

ArnoldJRimmer

mariaalice wrote: »

This thread kind of reminds me of a story about Patrick Kavanagh, it was commented about him its just as well he didn't live long enough to ruin his reputation.

There is a fine line between eccentric and annoying crank.

Bringing back nightmares of school and having to study his absolute dogsh!t poetry. Most over rated Irish poet of all time

looksee

Did you know, apropos of absolutely nothing, that Jack Yeats won an Olympic Medal for his Liffey Swim.

Graces7

lost my umbrella...

ArnoldJRimmer

ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »

Bringing back nightmares of school and having to study his absolute dogsh!t poetry. Most over rated Irish poet of all time

arah now stop thats an outrageous statement.

but by all accounts a disaster of a man alright