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Landing at bottom of Stairs

  • 30-07-2019 4:56pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭


    Just looking at Part K of the building regs which states:

    1.1.13 A level landing should be provided at
    the top and bottom of every flight except that
    a landing may not be necessary between a
    flight and a door if the total rise of the flight is
    not more than 600 mm and the door slides or
    opens away from the steps. The landing may
    include part of a floor. The width and going
    of the landing should be at least as great as
    the smallest width of the flight.

    1.1.14 Landings should be clear of
    permanent obstruction. A door opening on to
    a landing should be so positioned that there
    will be a clear space of at least the full width
    of the flight between the door swing and the
    flight. In the case of private stairs, the landing
    at the bottom of a flight may be reduced in
    length provided a clear space of at least
    400mm is maintained between the flight and
    the door swing
    (see Diagram 5 for examples).

    Diagram 5 show instances of a doorway opening onto a landing otherwise compliant with 1.1.13.

    My question relates to the bolded part. As it's not clear if that applies only to the instances in the diagram or generally.

    If I were to have a flight of stairs, and at the bottom they had a 400mm long landing, before you leave via an outwards opening door, would this be compliant?


Comments

  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    ‘Door swing’ is the key word


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,172 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Blisterman wrote: »
    Just looking at Part K of the building regs which states:



    Diagram 5 show instances of a doorway opening onto a landing otherwise compliant with 1.1.13.

    My question relates to the bolded part. As it's not clear if that applies only to the instances in the diagram or generally.

    If I were to have a flight of stairs, and at the bottom they had a 400mm long landing, before you leave via an outwards opening door, would this be compliant?


    no... because

    Landings
    1.1.13 A level landing should be provided at
    the top and bottom of every flight except that
    a landing may not be necessary between a
    flight and a door if the total rise of the flight is
    not more than 600 mm and the door slides or
    opens away from the steps. The landing may
    include part of a floor. The width and going
    of the landing should be at least as great as
    the smallest width of the flight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    That's still not clear, because the door swing will be opening away from you, so 400mm clearance is maintained between the bottom of the stairs and the door swing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    no... because

    Landings
    1.1.13 A level landing should be provided at
    the top and bottom of every flight except that
    a landing may not be necessary between a
    flight and a door if the total rise of the flight is
    not more than 600 mm and the door slides or
    opens away from the steps. The landing may
    include part of a floor. The width and going
    of the landing should be at least as great as
    the smallest width of the flight.

    But it gives an exception in the following paragraph for a private stairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    A 400mm landing will look so wrong that the question shouldn't even arise imo.
    As the diagram shows, it is intended for the scenario where full landing is provided but has occasional door swinging into that space.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,172 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Blisterman wrote: »
    That's still not clear, because the door swing will be opening away from you, so 400mm clearance is maintained between the bottom of the stairs and the door swing.

    It only gives that exemption if the door swings towards the stairs.

    In your case there is no door swing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Ok, thanks for the advice. I guess it's not an option.


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