RAAF to train IAC Pilots

Psychlops

Interesting development..

https://www.thejournal.ie/air-corps-pilots-plan-australia-4740628-Jul2019/

the_syco

An interesting pilot scheme! :pac:

But seriously, this could be an effective way to train people.

Deep Thought

Psychlops wrote: »

Interesting development..

https://www.thejournal.ie/air-corps-pilots-plan-australia-4740628-Jul2019/

is there really 100 IAC Pilots ?

How do they maintain hours ?

sparky42

Deep Thought wrote: »

is there really 100 IAC Pilots ?

How do they maintain hours ?

Nah I think it's been said there's about 80 or so, there's meant to be 100.

Larbre34

Can they bring back a few F-18Fs?

helimachoptor

Why are they sending them so far away?
Surely the RAF would be the logical choice?

return guide

helimachoptor wrote: »

Why are they sending them so far away?
Surely the RAF would be the logical choice?

RAF do not operate that aircraft.

roadmaster

Has it being confirmed what aircraft they are going to be training on and what aircraft they will be operating for there during the deployment after training? I believe these aren’t cadets going out so it wouldn’t be the pc9s

Psychlops

King Airs..

roadmaster

Psychlops wrote: »

King Airs..

Is that so it will be easier to train casa pilots or what ever aircraft that replaced them?

jonnybigwallet

I think they have intention of replacing Casas with updated model of same aircraft.

Psychlops

The Sqn they are going to operate the King Air for Maritime Patrol.


32 Squadron RAAF, King Air 350's, from what I read, the King Air is used as a lead in & up to the likes of the Casa.


Id hedge my bets that we stick with Casa's. Most likely C295M.

sparky42

Psychlops wrote: »

The Sqn they are going to operate the King Air for Maritime Patrol.


32 Squadron RAAF, King Air 350's, from what I read, the King Air is used as a lead in & up to the likes of the Casa.


Id hedge my bets that we stick with Casa's. Most likely C295M.

Think it's pretty much a given that it's the 295, wonder if this is to do with the pilot numbers and the operational rates of the 2 235's?

newcavanman

return guide wrote: »

RAF do not operate that aircraft.

RAF have King Airs and will soon have Texans T-6, almost identical to PC-9s

roadmaster

I know this not the right place to post this but I think it warrants its own thread. Since we now have a private air ambulance in the south how is it being decided where 112 goes and where it goes as seen the private aircraft was in Galway so it’s not being decided geographically how are they doing it?

Heraldoffreeent

roadmaster wrote: »

I know this not the right place to post this but I think it warrants its own thread. Since we now have a private air ambulance in the south how is it being decided where 112 goes and where it goes as seen the private aircraft was in Galway so it’s not being decided geographically how are they doing it?

112 was started as a response to Roscommon hospital closing. As such, it's AOR is the midlands-west.

The private service is munster based.

roadmaster

After the two pilots 18 months are up and the Aussies offered them commissions to stay and fly for them would there be anything the government here could do to stop them staying?

donvito99

roadmaster wrote: »

After the two pilots 18 months are up and the Aussies offered them commissions to stay and fly for them would there be anything the government here could do to stop them staying?

Can you be commissioned as a non-national in Oz?

roadmaster

donvito99 wrote: »

Can you be commissioned as a non-national in Oz?

I think the Aussies happily take qualified police and military from around the English speaking world

Heraldoffreeent

roadmaster wrote: »

I think the Aussies happily take qualified police and military from around the English speaking world

Have they not restricted that to a limited number of Commonwealth countries though? Broadly aligned with the CANZUK, and not including themselves?

roadmaster

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

Have they not restricted that to a limited number of Commonwealth countries though? Broadly aligned with the CANZUK, and not including themselves?

RTE had a show about guards that packed the bags and joined the Australian police and I think that’s only a year or two ago

Heraldoffreeent

roadmaster wrote: »

RTE had a show about guards that packed the bags and joined the Australian police and I think that’s only a year or two ago

Police, not sure it applies to Mil. Think I heard of one officer transferring a few years back, had to drop a rank.
UK and CAN transfer and keep rank as far as I know.

Signore Fancy Pants

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

Police, not sure it applies to Mil. Think I heard of one officer transferring a few years back, had to drop a rank.
UK and CAN transfer and keep rank as far as I know.

Irish officers and NCOs have gone to Aus military. Some dropped rank, some didnt. It depends on the appointment and the persons experience. Its mostly HQ or technical jobs.

roadmaster

I see in the article attached the Air Corps are sending pilots to the US Army for helicopter training between this and the lads going to Australia is this the start of training being outsourced ?

https://www.thejournal.ie/air-corps-emergency-helicopter-restrictions-4959227-Jan2020/

Heraldoffreeent

roadmaster wrote: »

I see in the article attached the Air Corps are sending pilots to the US Army for helicopter training between this and the lads going to Australia is this the start of training being outsourced ?

https://www.thejournal.ie/air-corps-emergency-helicopter-restrictions-4959227-Jan2020/

Interesting, the US army bought a mil spec AW139 recently, wonder if thats connected?

Psychlops

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

Interesting, the US army bought a mil spec AW139 recently, wonder if thats connected?

I doubt it, their AW139's are not in service yet & wont be for a year or two & their primary role is safety of the US Nuclear Silo arsenal.

sparky42

Psychlops wrote: »

I doubt it, their AW139's are not in service yet & wont be for a year or two & their primary role is safety of the US Nuclear Silo arsenal.

How long before we have someone in the Daíl asking are we buying Apaches?

roadmaster

They are probably going to be training on the Lakotas if it’s the US army they are going to then again it could be the USAF you wouldn’t completely trust the journals reporting

sparky42

A further update on this, 2 pilots are training at Fort Rucker and a further 6 are likely to go to train on Fixed Wing aircraft according to the Minister
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/irish-air-corps-pilots-are-training-in-alabama-with-us-military-1.4353859

Psychlops

sparky42 wrote: »

A further update on this, 2 pilots are training at Fort Rucker and a further 6 are likely to go to train on Fixed Wing aircraft according to the Minister
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/irish-air-corps-pilots-are-training-in-alabama-with-us-military-1.4353859

Either a good thing or a desperate roll of the dice, perhaps all is not well in Bal & the shortage is getting to extreme measures.

sparky42

Psychlops wrote: »

Either a good thing or a desperate roll of the dice, perhaps all is not well in Bal & the shortage is getting to extreme measures.

I'm guessing the taskings and the shortfall of pilots mean there's training restrictions. I mean there has been reports of the Air Ambulance eating into pilots availability.

roadmaster

sparky42 wrote: »

I'm guessing the taskings and the shortfall of pilots mean there's training restrictions. I mean there has been reports of the Air Ambulance eating into pilots availability.

There would be some panic in Dublin if the lads in Aus rang home and said the RAAF have offered us contracts and we like the sun so where staying

roadmaster

I seen last week the Air Corps had pictures up of the two pilots in Australia who are training on King Airs and then will go operational with them for a period of time. Would it not of being more beneficial to send them to a nation like Canada who fly the casa 295 so they would come back fully trained on aircraft similar to what the air corps have and will have rather than king airs which we don't have?

donvito99

roadmaster wrote: »

I seen last week the Air Corps had pictures up of the two pilots in Australia who are training on King Airs and then will go operational with them for a period of time. Would it not of being more beneficial to send them to a nation like Canada who fly the casa 295 so they would come back fully trained on aircraft similar to what the air corps have and will have rather than king airs which we don't have?

Are the Canadian one's in service? Also, we have the 235s so why go to Canada to train on basically the same type?

The reason behind these postings was a lack of instructors I thought?

sparky42

roadmaster wrote: »

I seen last week the Air Corps had pictures up of the two pilots in Australia who are training on King Airs and then will go operational with them for a period of time. Would it not of being more beneficial to send them to a nation like Canada who fly the casa 295 so they would come back fully trained on aircraft similar to what the air corps have and will have rather than king airs which we don't have?

Guess the important part was the Australian's aren't charging us, would Canada do the same?

Psychlops

donvito99 wrote: »

Are the Canadian one's in service? Also, we have the 235s so why go to Canada to train on basically the same type?

The reason behind these postings was a lack of instructors I thought?

1st Canadian C295 arrived in September 2020.

roadmaster

sparky42 wrote: »

Guess the important part was the Australian's aren't charging us, would Canada do the same?

So thats why the DOD approved it they heard the word FREE

sparky42

roadmaster wrote: »

So thats why the DOD approved it they heard the word FREE

Yep, though I wonder what offer the US gave us for having pilots training with them?