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  • 25-07-2019 2:23pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭


    I'm getting a new attic ladder put in and I'm a bit lost about which one to choose.

    I'm looking for a Stira type one and had only heard of them before I started looking into this.
    But I see that there's loads of different brands out there with very little that I can see between them (without actually trying them out, which isn't really an option)

    Some of the things I'm looking for:
    - fits a 2700 high ceiling
    - is nice and sturdy/long lasting/good quality timber on ladder
    - has the ladder stepped out from the trap-door to allow for extra food room
    - preferably less steep

    I've looked into Stira, but also Fakro (amazon(DOT)co.uk/Fakro-LWK-Loft-Ladder-1200/dp/B015Y893BE/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=fakro+ladder&qid=1564064353&s=gateway&sr=8-1) and this one ( amazon(DOT)co.uk/Deluxe-Wooden-Loft-Ladder-Handrails/dp/B001O3CJ8S/ref=pd_day0_hl_60_2/259-5686292-1875249?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001O3CJ8S&pd_rd_r=08d284ac-cf19-4bc0-a66a-46589ba69726&pd_rd_w=dstIp&pd_rd_wg=aKwDD&pf_rd_p=92d624bb-a334-423e-8722-8024dd09667f&pf_rd_r=DR9YDQ046JYKTT7Y4RGY&psc=1&refRID=DR9YDQ046JYKTT7Y4RGY)

    So what have folks found with different brands?
    Were any noticeably better?
    Why do Stira seem to be 2-3 times the price of others?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Have a Stira in about 20yrs
    Cant comment on others but one of the best investments I ever put into the house


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭disposableFish


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    Have a Stira in about 20yrs
    Cant comment on others but one of the best investments I ever put into the house

    Yeah, the only ones I can remember using are Stira and seemed good.

    The problem is most other brands look the same on the face of it and I can't see anything to explain the huge price difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 996 ✭✭✭Jakey Rolling


    I installed a Minka loft ladder 6 years ago. . Really pleased with the airtightness and thick insulation integrated into the hatch.

    Got mine from Stakelums in Thurles and pleasantly surprised at the price, €180 at the time, for a quality Austrian product.

    Similar to this one:
    https://www.topline.ie/building-supplies/ladders-scaffolding/ladders/attic-ladders/minka/polar-extreme-airtight-loft-ladder

    100412.2526@compuserve.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Do stira still do the installation as they did mine but that was a long time ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,656 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    Do stira still do the installation as they did mine but that was a long time ago

    Yes, comes with a guarantee also.
    Have one since last year and wouldn't be without it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭waffleman


    Got one in local co-op.

    Was 110 euro and easy to install by lengthening our attic access door.

    The fold out ladder might not be as sturdy as a stira but has done the job for us for nearly 10 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,423 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I got a stira when they very first came out - saw it advertised on the Late Late Show, must have been nearly 30 years ago as we moved into that house 31 years ago and got it within about a year I think. Solid as a rock, still going perfect when I sold the house last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,793 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Most of them are a little more flimsy than the stira but unless you want to use it everyday and are about 20 stone, most of them are fine.
    Get the widest one possible though.
    Woodies for example seem to stock one but it's narrow and would be annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭liam7831


    You'll be delira with your Stira


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,243 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I've actually put three of these in in my time, a Stira first, one I bought and fitted myself, and one fitted by a local lad for 299e.
    My opinion: I am flabbergasted by the PR of Stira...must be the most successful campaign ever, because all 3 to my knowledge (I still use the first and third) are still functioning exactly equally.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,793 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    The power of the late late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭waffleman


    From Stira's website:

    price-comparison.jpg

    They are obviously takin the p!ss.

    Buy one yourself and get a good carpenter to fit it.

    Will save you a few 100 euro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,223 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    Regularly in Woodies for circa 100. Goodwins also for not much more but they typically have at least 2 widths. The Woodies one seems to be 600mm width. I’ve done quite a few and have never had the luxury of the joist centers accommodate this width. Always seem to have to get the 550mm and just insert filler pieces. Easy enough job if you’re handy. Made easier towards the end with two pair of hands.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭disposableFish


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    Do stira still do the installation as they did mine but that was a long time ago

    They do indeed.
    I got a quote off them with/without fitting - it was 2-3 times the price unfitted.
    The extra for fitting was pretty reasonable though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭disposableFish


    I installed a Minka loft ladder 6 years ago. . Really pleased with the airtightness and thick insulation integrated into the hatch.

    Got mine from Stakelums in Thurles and pleasantly surprised at the price, €180 at the time, for a quality Austrian product.

    Similar to this one:
    https://www.topline.ie/building-supplies/ladders-scaffolding/ladders/attic-ladders/minka/polar-extreme-airtight-loft-ladder

    I really like the look of that.
    The amount of insulation is great - might be the winner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭disposableFish


    I've actually put three of these in in my time, a Stira first, one I bought and fitted myself, and one fitted by a local lad for 299e.
    My opinion: I am flabbergasted by the PR of Stira...must be the most successful campaign ever, because all 3 to my knowledge (I still use the first and third) are still functioning exactly equally.

    That could be the big difference alright.

    There's a couple that are obviously lower quality, but most of them seem to be about on the same level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,223 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    €400 for an OEM stira unfitted. Scandelous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    One thing i would like is a bigger step so as not getting the feeling your climbing a ladder as sore on the feet and if unsteady a side rail when your older to assist in making it easier to get up there.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,254 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    I was looking into a stira a few years ago, but it looked flimsy. So I bought a Fakro, and fitted it myself.


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