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Convicted Sex offender gets moved to Female prison

  • 22-07-2019 5:45pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭


    A convicted Sex offender (10 counts of sexual assault and one count of cruelty against a child) has decided to Transition and has been moved to a Female prison.
    This was inevitable, its been happening in the UK and some of the 'Women' have gone on to rape other Female inmates.

    It seems that a lot of Trans 'Allies' are quite happy to put other Women at risk of assault and rape.
    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/sex-offender-undergoing-male-female-16623261


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I wonder who his protection detail is there to protect!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Sounds a bit like Karen White
    White entered the UK prison system as transgender. However, despite dressing as a woman, the 52-year-old had not undergone any surgery and was still legally a male. She was also a convicted paedophile and on remand for grievous bodily harm, burglary, multiple rapes and other sexual offences against women.

    In September last year she was transferred to New Hall prison in West Yorkshire. During a three-month period at the female prison she sexually assaulted two other inmates.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/11/karen-white-how-manipulative-and-controlling-offender-attacked-again-transgender-prison

    It surprises me that a person with a dick and a history of sexual offences against women is sent to a female prison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    Imo.solidary confinement for safety of other prisioners is where this is headed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,996 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    biko wrote: »
    Sounds a bit like Karen White


    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/11/karen-white-how-manipulative-and-controlling-offender-attacked-again-transgender-prison

    It surprises me that a person with a dick and a history of sexual offences against women is sent to a female prison.

    Nothing surprises me these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,523 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    For crimes you should be imprisoned based on your original birth cert designation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    They should start his transition immediately then. Chop, chop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    biko wrote: »
    It surprises me that a person with a dick and a history of sexual offences against women is sent to a female prison.

    See some would suggest thats a transphobic statement women can have lady penis's if they feel like it.

    But we all know it's scam for reduced sentences and being sent to a target rich environment .

    Male rapist's should never ever be sent to a woman's prison full of vulnerable women or women full stop.
    Regardless how the rapist identifies as


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    A lot of transphobes in here. She identifies as a woman so she is now a woman, she should be locked up with women, the same as any other woman would be. Anyone who says otherwise is out of touch with reality. Doesn’t matter that she had (or indeed still has) has a penis. She should also be allowed to have communal showers with the other female inmates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭touts


    Very simple solution in this case. Call him in and say "Cut them off first then we'll put you in a prison where you can no longer do harm with them. There's a scissors on the table behind you. Oh and you don't mind if we video this to show your victims do you.".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Mean Laqueefa


    touts wrote: »
    Very simple solution in this case. Call him in and say "Cut them off first then we'll put you in a prison where you can no longer do harm with them. There's a scissors on the table behind you. Oh and you don't mind if we video this to show your victims do you.".

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Wow crazy how far these changeable-gender people will go for 'equal' rights even if it means putting actual women in danger, sickly!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    He gives good transwomen a bad name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    branie2 wrote: »
    He gives good transwomen a bad name.

    Misgendering is not permitted here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,434 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    A lot of transphobes in here. She identifies as a woman so she is now a woman, she should be locked up with women, the same as any other woman would be. Anyone who says otherwise is out of touch with reality. Doesn’t matter that she had (or indeed still has) has a penis. She should also be allowed to have communal showers with the other female inmates.


    I think you're being sarcastic.

    But just in case you're not - I'm proud to be a TERF, and to support issues from the perspective of a natural-born-woman.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    mad muffin wrote: »
    They should start his transition immediately then. Chop, chop.

    I believe the Scissors Sisters are still inside there...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    sabat wrote: »
    I believe the Scissors Sisters are still inside there...

    Snip snip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,015 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Have I got this right that he now has decided to identify as a woman so believes it is his right to be in a woman's prison
    Good god!
    Next there will be demands for non gender conforming prisons to be built lest their human rights are being violated
    We all know why he doesn't want to be in a male prison.

    The world has gone mad I tell you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    A lot of transphobes in here. She identifies as a woman so she is now a woman, she should be locked up with women, the same as any other woman would be. Anyone who says otherwise is out of touch with reality. Doesn’t matter that she had (or indeed still has) has a penis. She should also be allowed to have communal showers with the other female inmates.

    Well, it breaks my personal policy of what classifies a man vs a woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    A lot of transphobes in here. She identifies as a woman so she is now a woman, she should be locked up with women, the same as any other woman would be. Anyone who says otherwise is out of touch with reality. Doesn’t matter that she had (or indeed still has) has a penis. She should also be allowed to have communal showers with the other female inmates.

    If what you are saying is what you believe, and not a spoof, then it's worrying that we seem to be living through what Orwell predicted in 1984.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    A report about UK prisons is saying that 1 in 50 inmates are claiming to be transgender due to the considerations given to a transwomen prisoners, amongst which are the right to have their own cell, shower alone and choose their own clothing. They also have the right to wash personal items in their cell, work detail taking into consideration their gender, and the right to choose what way the staff will search you. One jail was criticised by the independent monitoring board for not permitting inmates to purchase cosmetics from the Avon catalogue thus preventing inmates from living fully in their gender.

    And of course the big prize - getting transferred from a violent place where you are despised and segregated for your own protection due to the nature of your crimes to a women's prison which in general houses a population of largely non-violent vulnerable women, and if you are a sexual offender that must feel like all your Christmases come at once.

    In the UK it started with just the one - Karen White who then went on to assault two women in her new jail, and now one in fifty are interested in transitioning. Suggesting that they are doing it from a point of self serving opportunism rather than being genuinely trans is not popular because if someone says they are trans, they are. End of. Any skepticism is potentially transphobic.

    I'd say there's a few sex offenders on remand who will happily try this and we will probably see more cases soon.


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    The women's rights movement has become so strong even men are part of it now. Weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,023 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    A convicted Sex offender (10 counts of sexual assault and one count of cruelty against a child) has decided to Transition and has been moved to a Female prison.

    Was he convicted of assaulting males or females?

    This could be a good news story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭fret_wimp2


    "hey, this lion don't think he's a lion no more, says he's now an antelope. What should we do with him? “

    “move him to antelope Island, that should keep everyone happy".
    (smiles and dusts hands off with sense of accomplishment)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    fret_wimp2 wrote: »
    "hey, this lion don't think he's a lion no more. What should we do with him? “

    “move him to antelope Island, that should keep everyone happy".
    (smiles and dusts hands off with sense of accomplishment)

    Do you know how difficult it is for a woman to get sent to prison in this country? There are some seriously dangerous thugettes in the Dóchas and I can't imagine whatever bull-dyke calls the shots in there is going to welcome this intrusion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,414 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    I've said it before but if you are jailed for a serious offence you should lose the majority of your rights and freedoms.

    Suddenly identify as a woman, tough you were registered on entry into the system as male youll do your time as one.

    Next they'll identify as not being a criminal. Sure lets set them free he doesnt identify as being a criminal anymore


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    I see the leftie loons who usually are defenders of the misfit's on some threads are staying out of this one.

    The so called liberal and we're all equal doesn't match the madness that was perpetrated by the goon who demands equal opportunity and free reign.

    This is what happens when you try to mix biology and genetics with new age sociology...

    A disastrous result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,628 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    biko wrote: »
    Sounds a bit like Karen White


    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/11/karen-white-how-manipulative-and-controlling-offender-attacked-again-transgender-prison

    It surprises me that a person with a dick and a history of sexual offences against women is sent to a female prison.

    Woah, calm down there buddy. Your logical thought is frowned upon in 2019. Did you not know that if you’ve balls and a penis you can still be a woman?

    That’s you schooled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Woah, calm down there buddy. Your logical thought is frowned upon in 2019. Did you not know that if you’ve balls and a penis you can still be a woman?

    That’s you schooled.


    To be fair, it's a "female penis" because this is apparently a thing now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,015 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Do man boobs count as identifying as a man in transition to being a woman?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Given the option, spending hard time with aggressive male prisoners, or deciding to be a woman and spend time with women all day, what would you do if you had to spend time in jail anyway?
    In times gone by the guy would have been sectioned into a mental care home but now since we're so accommodating of one's fantasies (Or ulterior motives) we have provided a very convenient way to spend your prison time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,628 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    To be fair, it's a "female penis" because this is apparently a thing now.

    News to me but the rules do change every day.

    LGBT2KQIXZ forever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    biko wrote: »
    Sounds a bit like Karen White


    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/11/karen-white-how-manipulative-and-controlling-offender-attacked-again-transgender-prison

    It surprises me that a person with a dick and a history of sexual offences against women is sent to a female prison.

    Don't forget the balls ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,015 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    News to me but the rules do change every day.

    LGBT2KQIXZ forever.

    They will just appropriate the Amazon logo soon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Hal3000


    _blaaz wrote: »
    Imo.solidary confinement for safety of other prisioners is where this is headed

    Won't happen in Ireland. Criminals have the most rights in this society.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    tonybowie wrote: »
    Could it be that this case has opened their eyes to the madness that is going on, they have now changed their view?

    Well having been a bit of a liberal and left leaning person myself in the past, they're not going to be swayed.

    They're proclaim to be open minded and all for victims of society and the so called down trodden, but from my observations they're just rebellious and love a good fight.

    Some are ok to have a coffee with or go partying with etc but I never talk political subjects or anything to do with society and culture.
    Because that's the night dragged into a quagmire of debate and heated discussion.

    They cannot see through the eye's of a moderate or alt right person, so in effect you're dealing with high end narcissism and people with mum and dad issues.

    Having been a leftie snowflake and thawed out of it, I was shocked at the brain washing and lack of empathy the those hippie's inflict on their kid's and expanding circles....

    Ironically a lot of them are psychotherapists and youth workers.....exe addict's and some are still in active addiction.
    It all goes with their misfit lifestyle....

    So I'm sorry to say it won't open their eyes, unless they see the world for what it really is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 674 ✭✭✭ingalway


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    To be fair, it's a "female penis" because this is apparently a thing now.
    Ladydick is what the woke blokes like to call it and if a lesbian objects to it they are a transphobic terf who deserves all forms of physical and sexual assault possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,628 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    nthclare wrote: »
    Well having been a bit of a liberal and left leaning person myself in the past, they're not going to be swayed.

    They're proclaim to be open minded and all for victims of society and the so called down trodden, but from my observations they're just rebellious and love a good fight.

    Some are ok to have a coffee with or go partying with etc but I never talk political subjects or anything to do with society and culture.
    Because that's the night dragged into a quagmire of debate and heated discussion.

    They cannot see through the eye's of a moderate or alt right person, so in effect you're dealing with high end narcissism and people with mum and dad issues.

    Having been a leftie snowflake and thawed out of it, I was shocked at the brain washing and lack of empathy the those hippie's inflict on their kid's and expanding circles....

    Ironically a lot of them are psychotherapists and youth workers.....exe addict's and some are still in active addiction.
    It all goes with their misfit lifestyle....

    So I'm sorry to say it won't open their eyes, unless they see the world for what it really is.

    I’ll be shot for this but it’s a mental problem. Go look at the suicide rates on pre and post op trans people. Transitioning doesn’t solve anything, in fact the suicide rate goes through the roof after transitioning. But be prepared, if you google that, you’ll find its your and my fault for that for not being accepting enough. Nobody cares though, I don’t care if a man wants to be called Mary, that’s fine, I’ll call whatever a person wants me to call them. But Jesus, they’re going too far. It’s a cult now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,996 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    tonybowie wrote: »
    The same week the UN took Transgender of the list of mental health issues they put playing Video games on the list.
    Makes you wonder.

    Is this the same UN which had Saudi Arabia as chair of the human rights panel?

    Hahahahahaha #Khassogi.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    nthclare wrote: »
    Well having been a bit of a liberal and left leaning person myself in the past, they're not going to be swayed.

    They're proclaim to be open minded and all for victims of society and the so called down trodden, but from my observations they're just rebellious and love a good fight.

    Some are ok to have a coffee with or go partying with etc but I never talk political subjects or anything to do with society and culture.
    Because that's the night dragged into a quagmire of debate and heated discussion.

    They cannot see through the eye's of a moderate or alt right person, so in effect you're dealing with high end narcissism and people with mum and dad issues.

    Having been a leftie snowflake and thawed out of it, I was shocked at the brain washing and lack of empathy the those hippie's inflict on their kid's and expanding circles....

    Ironically a lot of them are psychotherapists and youth workers.....exe addict's and some are still in active addiction.
    It all goes with their misfit lifestyle....

    So I'm sorry to say it won't open their eyes, unless they see the world for what it really is.


    I was in a similar mindset to you a few years ago and then i started to get wary of the constant "and then we should.....!" once certain things became widely acceptable and the "activists" needed to find their next cause.


    When it gets into the territory of making other people uncomfortable just to prove a point then i'm out.


    I'd still consider myself fairly liberal but i'm sure current day leftists think i'm Hitler for not getting on board with every new brainfart that they have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Is this the same UN which had Saudi Arabia as chair of the human rights panel?

    Hahahahahaha #Khassogi.


    To be fair to the KSA, they have a bunch of money. That seems to make the UN forget their lofty goals.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    I was in a similar mindset to you a few years ago and then i started to get wary of the constant "and then we should.....!" once certain things became widely acceptable and the "activists" needed to find their next cause.


    When it gets into the territory of making other people uncomfortable just to prove a point then i'm out.


    I'd still consider myself fairly liberal but i'm sure current day leftists think i'm Hitler for not getting on board with every new brainfart that they have.

    Absolutely amazing response, I'm not a homophobe, I don't think there's anything wrong with people's choices , but when I research some of the negative effects people's selfish choices and desires have on others then I will agree or disagree and if it's been researched and found bad for certain areas of society I'll say it.

    I rely on fact's, I don't get emotionally triggered by fact's.

    If some dude want's to dress up as a woman and gets free reign to abuse women then I think it's wrong.

    I don't read it as every transgender person is out to hurt women, but some posters go all Postal on people's opinions and start a row.

    Now correct me if I'm wrong, people coming to negative conclusions and getting triggered must have anxiety disorders.

    They're locked and loaded and should seek
    some help, seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Limpy wrote: »
    The women's rights movement has become so strong even men are part of it now. Weird.

    I would be concerned about any man who wasn’t on board with the ‘women’s rights movement’ as you put it.


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