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Planning Permission

  • 15-07-2019 11:14am
    #1
    REDSOCKS22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 ✭


    Hi All, I am currently looking at a house that has a Granny flat (with ESB and Water connection from main dwelling) out the back (current planning for a Shed) so I would need retention planning for change in usage, does anyone have any experience of obtaining same from Dublin City Council? Just wondering would it be a headache to obtain same.


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  • #2
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    REDSOCKS22 wrote: »
    Hi All, I am currently looking at a house that has a Granny flat (with ESB and Water connection from main dwelling) out the back (current planning for a Shed) so I would need retention planning for change in usage, does anyone have any experience of obtaining same from Dublin City Council? Just wondering would it be a headache to obtain same.

    Yes.
    It will be refused.

    Unless you apply for retention of the structure, construction of a link to the main dwelling and conversion of the whole stricter to a granny flat (Ancillary Family Accommodation).


  • #3
    REDSOCKS22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 ✭REDSOCKS22


    Thanks it would not be possible to construct a link to the main dwelling the way it is set up. I could apply for retention as a studio rather than a granny flat.


  • #4
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    REDSOCKS22 wrote: »
    Thanks it would not be possible to construct a link to the main dwelling the way it is set up. I could apply for retention as a studio rather than a granny flat.

    Garden Room/Shed/Store/Games Room/Hobby Room etc
    All the same Planning class.
    It will be conditioned that it cannot be used for habitable purposes.


  • #5
    REDSOCKS22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 ✭REDSOCKS22


    Yes as advised I would submit a change of usage planning application.


  • #6
    Calahonda52
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    REDSOCKS22 wrote: »
    Yes as advised I would submit a change of usage planning application.
    Why?
    You have planning for a shed: change of use to what?

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



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  • #7
    REDSOCKS22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 ✭REDSOCKS22


    Calahonda52 wrote: »
    Why?
    You have planning for a shed: change of use to what?

    To a granny flat, it is currently fitted out as a granny flat!


  • #8
    selfbuild17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭selfbuild17


    REDSOCKS22 wrote: »
    To a granny flat, it is currently fitted out as a granny flat!

    You’ve been advised that it would be refused.


  • #9
    REDSOCKS22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 ✭REDSOCKS22


    selfbuild17 wrote: »
    You’ve been advised that it would be refused.

    I’m allowed to look for more than one opinion!


  • #10
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    A second opinion here...

    It will be refused permission as a granny flat.


  • #11
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    REDSOCKS22 wrote: »
    Yes as advised I would submit a change of usage planning application.

    You won’t get permission for change of use. Also, in planning terms, a change of use is a change in its planning class from one to another, for example, from residential to commercial. A granny flat is still residential so there’s no change of use taking place.

    You need to speak to someone face to face to go through the options, but ,etc me tell you, you are very limited.

    It’s a shed, a glorified shed unfortunately and you just have to accept that. It’s the cold hard truth, but honesty is the best policy.


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  • #12
    REDSOCKS22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 ✭REDSOCKS22


    kceire wrote: »
    You won’t get permission for change of use. Also, in planning terms, a change of use is a change in its planning class from one to another, for example, from residential to commercial. A granny flat is still residential so there’s no change of use taking place.

    You need to speak to someone face to face to go through the options, but ,etc me tell you, you are very limited.

    It’s a shed, a glorified shed unfortunately and you just have to accept that. It’s the cold hard truth, but honesty is the best policy.

    Great thanks for that.


  • #13
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    REDSOCKS22 wrote: »
    I’m allowed to look for more than one opinion!
    sydthebeat wrote: »
    A second opinion here...

    It will be refused permission as a granny flat.

    +2


  • #14
    Calahonda52
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    REDSOCKS22 wrote: »
    Hi All, I am currently looking at a house that has a Granny flat (with ESB and Water connection from main dwelling) out the back (current planning for a Shed) so I would need retention planning for change in usage, does anyone have any experience of obtaining same from Dublin City Council? Just wondering would it be a headache to obtain same.
    Are you a cash buyer?

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



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