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UK holidays speeding letter

  • 08-07-2019 03:29PM
    #1
    oldsmokey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭


    While in the UK for a few days, it transpired we were being naughty, doing 36 in a 30 mph zone - ffs --anyways, we were driving a car we'd bought in the UK, and the garage gave the police our details when the car reg showed up as a dealers car.
    The garage contacted me to let me know to expect something from the police., which duly arrived.
    Its a bit of a strange letter from the Constabulary, want ing to confirm the details the garage gave (of us), and looking for our travel dates, and copy of our insurance.It gives no indication of their future intentions- to prosecute? points on my licence? Anybody been in this position? What to do...ive got 14 days to reply..
    Ta


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  • #2
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    oldsmokey wrote: »
    While in the UK for a few days, it transpired we were being naughty, doing 36 in a 30 mph zone - ffs --anyways, we were driving a car we'd bought in the UK, and the garage gave the police our details when the car reg showed up as a dealers car.
    The garage contacted me to let me know to expect something from the police., which duly arrived.
    Its a bit of a strange letter from the Constabulary, want ing to confirm the details the garage gave (of us), and looking for our travel dates, and copy of our insurance.It gives no indication of their future intentions- to prosecute? points on my licence? Anybody been in this position? What to do...ive got 14 days to reply..
    Ta

    You can ignore it, and if you go to the UK again expect some bother, or you can play ball and pay the fine when it comes through and get over it. Not sure if they can apply points to your license if it is Irish. I think the fine is based on your weekly income now, right? 25-75% of your income seems a bit steep. It's a minimum of £100 and 3 points, which is also quite steep for such a small amount over.


  • #3
    Isambard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    you'll be flagged up on ANPR and there could be consequences if you visit again. However they'd have to stop you first to know it was you, so it's your call. I don't think the points can be applied to a IE license.


  • #4
    ba_barabus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Isambard wrote: »
    you'll be flagged up on ANPR and there could be consequences if you visit again. However they'd have to stop you first to know it was you, so it's your call. I don't think the points can be applied to a IE license.

    ANPR won't show much once the reg is changed.

    A driving ban in the UK applies in Ireland if they go that route. It would seem excessive however.

    Tbh if it's from the police I'd just sort it. If it's from some sort of debt collection enforcement agency however I'd just ignore it.


  • #5
    Isambard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    ANPR won't show much once the reg is changed.

    A driving ban in the UK applies in Ireland if they go that route. It would seem excessive however.

    Tbh if it's from the police I'd just sort it. If it's from some sort of debt collection enforcement agency however I'd just ignore it.

    that was my inference saying they'd have to stop him first, although I meant PNC of course.
    He will be flagged up on their system, even if the car isn't.

    You don't get banned for doing 6 mph over the limit (surely)


  • #6
    ba_barabus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Isambard wrote: »
    that was my inference saying they'd have to stop him first, although I meant PNC of course.
    He will be flagged up on their system, even if the car isn't.

    You don't get banned for doing 6 mph over the limit (surely)

    You do for ignoring a court summons if they decide to go that route which is plausible.


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  • #7
    Bikerman2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Bikerman2019


    oldsmokey wrote: »
    While in the UK for a few days, it transpired we were being naughty, doing 36 in a 30 mph zone - ffs --anyways, we were driving a car we'd bought in the UK, and the garage gave the police our details when the car reg showed up as a dealers car.
    The garage contacted me to let me know to expect something from the police., which duly arrived.
    Its a bit of a strange letter from the Constabulary, want ing to confirm the details the garage gave (of us), and looking for our travel dates, and copy of our insurance.It gives no indication of their future intentions- to prosecute? points on my licence? Anybody been in this position? What to do...ive got 14 days to reply..
    Ta
    I got a speeding letter from the cops. I was nominated by the driver. I ignored it. Got another, I ignored it. No more said.


    For the record, I have never been to Nottingham in my life.


  • #8
    oldsmokey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭oldsmokey


    I'd gladly pay a fine, points i could do without - you'd wonder how much trouble theyll go to over 6 mph. Did the legislation about penalty points being applied throughout the EU for offences committed within the EU actually pass into law?


  • #9
    Darc19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    It won't go on anpr as simply no fine has been issued.
    Reg will obviously be changed, so no issues there.
    Points awarded in UK do not apply here.

    They may possibly finally issue a fine, but prior to that I'd simply ignore any correspondence unless sent by registered mail.

    They might send a further letter and then I'd suspect nothing further.


  • #10
    jellen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 ✭jellen


    Folks just reading this thread as I sit in London tonight with my Irish Reg car ... having possibly passed a "smart" motorway camera approx 10mph over the limit due my concerns the cars behind me would run into me if I slammed on my brakes :-) ..... wondering if OldSmokey every did get a letter / points.

    From the research I've done it appears that a fine may be possible to arrive home for an Irish reg car, but that points will not be applied to a ROI license.


  • #11
    oldsmokey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭oldsmokey


    jellen wrote: »
    Folks just reading this thread as I sit in London tonight with my Irish Reg car ... having possibly passed a "smart" motorway camera approx 10mph over the limit due my concerns the cars behind me would run into me if I slammed on my brakes :-) ..... wondering if OldSmokey every did get a letter / points.

    From the research I've done it appears that a fine may be possible to arrive home for an Irish reg car, but that points will not be applied to a ROI license.

    I didnt reply to letter, and heard no more...


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  • #12
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,659 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Surely if the reg is changed, and you dont send your details back to them, they actually have no way of knowing who you are? IE: Their system would have a name and an address for someone who never proved it was them. My assumption would be by sending them your travel dates, you are confirming you were there, and thus, implied guilt?


  • #13
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    jellen wrote: »
    Folks just reading this thread as I sit in London tonight with my Irish Reg car ... having possibly passed a "smart" motorway camera approx 10mph over the limit due my concerns the cars behind me would run into me if I slammed on my brakes :-) ..... wondering if OldSmokey every did get a letter / points.

    From the research I've done it appears that a fine may be possible to arrive home for an Irish reg car, but that points will not be applied to a ROI license.

    Its applied to a virtual UK license and if the virtual UK license incurrs enough points for a disqualification, the ROI License will also be disqualified.

    BTW, you do know what 10mph is right? It'd be 66kph, instead of 50kph.


  • #14
    Isambard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Its applied to a virtual UK license and if the virtual UK license incurrs enough points for a disqualification, the ROI License will also be disqualified.

    BTW, you do know what 10mph is right? It'd be 66kph, instead of 50kph.

    i don't think at this time speeding fines and points in the UK can affect an RoI license.


  • #15
    Dravokivich
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    Isambard wrote: »
    i don't think at this time speeding fines and points in the UK can affect an RoI license.

    The points don't get applied to an ROI license, but if you get disqualified on a virtual license in the UK, you'll be disqualified here too. Same the other way around.


  • #16
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,659 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    The points don't get applied to an ROI license, but if you get disqualified on a virtual license in the UK, you'll be disqualified here too. Same the other way around.

    But surely they need to know who you actually are? If the OP never responds, the police factually don't know who that driver is


  • #17
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    antodeco wrote: »
    But surely they need to know who you actually are? If the OP never responds, the police factually don't know who that driver is

    I don't know anything about that. I've just said any persistent issues with your driving there, will affect your driving here.


  • #18
    Isambard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    The points don't get applied to an ROI license, but if you get disqualified on a virtual license in the UK, you'll be disqualified here too. Same the other way around.

    I don't believe that a UK ban disqualifies an Irish driver with an Irish license. They can't ban you from driving in Ireland, only in the UK


  • #19
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    The points don't get applied to an ROI license, but if you get disqualified on a virtual license in the UK, you'll be disqualified here too. Same the other way around.

    That legislation was never introduced here even though it went through the bill process. Brexit will put an end to any future chance if it being introduced.


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