Is it time to stop being annoyed or outraged by idiots online?

NIMAN

A sad case for sure, Brian Cowen seriously ill and of course social media will be full of nasty comments.

But is it time to stop reporting it, we know its going to happen so perhaps forget about it and don't read it?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/anger-at-disgusting-online-abuse-of-seriouslyill-brian-cowen-38289264.html

Doesn't matter who it is thats in the news, there will be loads of folk online that have some reason or other to say they hate them or post vile comments about them.

Its hardly news any more.

is_that_so

Take a 5 second count before you do anything - helps engage the brain!

klaaaz

Cowen and all the FFG political elite never have to wait many hours in A&E to be get immediate essential health treatment like the rest of us. It's understandable that one of the men involved in the misery of the major economic crash would have anger directed at him.

JohnnyFlash

Sites like here and the Journal are filled with mouth-breathing morons. Most of them have no job, no partner, and no hope. So they just spend their days complaining, ranting, and soapboxing. Very easy lads to wind up as well I’ve noticed. You wouldn’t be dealing with our intellectual elite.

ancapailldorcha

It's sad that with so much opportunity offered by the internet, some people have nothing better to do than dumping links on sites like this to try and stir up outrage.

Shur what else would we do?

branie2

You get a lot of them

Alf Veedersane

klaaaz wrote: »

Cowen and all the FFG political elite never have to wait many hours in A&E to be get immediate essential health treatment like the rest of us.

They don't actually leave the rest of us waiting on trolleys with suspected bleeding on the brain either.

Sonny noggs

The real world ‘peaceful protest’, Je Suis Derek, Jobstown incident with Joan Burton among others set the tone - all of the above were seen as ‘legitimate’ by a certain segment of society so legitimised online abuse, particularly of politicians.

Milkshaking and threats of acid are the latest thing.

Amirani

klaaaz wrote: »

Cowen and all the FFG political elite never have to wait many hours in A&E to be get immediate essential health treatment like the rest of us. It's understandable that one of the men involved in the misery of the major economic crash would have anger directed at him.

When did you last have a brain haemorrhage? Or treat someone with one?

Are you a bit dim or do you really have such a simplistic view on things?

BarryD2

klaaaz wrote: »

Cowen and all the FFG political elite never have to wait many hours in A&E to be get immediate essential health treatment like the rest of us.

In principle that's true. I've long thought that many of the ills of the public health system would be sorted very quickly if TDs, senior civil servants along with managers and consultants in the HSE were obliged to rely solely on same public system as part of the T&Cs of their job.

klaaaz

Amirani wrote: »

When did you last have a brain haemorrhage? Or treat someone with one?

Are you a bit dim or do you really have such a simplistic view on things?

Why you directing this at me? Wasn't he treated in the private Beacon hospital rather than the likes of a general A&E like the rest of us would? I said that I understand why there is anger by the victims of the economic policies directed by FF leaders at the time which resulted in misery for alot of people.

Kimsang

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

It's sad that with so much opportunity offered by the internet, some people have nothing better to do than dumping links on sites like this to try and stir up outrage.

Its sad that with so much opportunity offered by the internet, some people think other people are trying to stir up outrage by dumping links on sites like this.

JohnnyFlash

klaaaz wrote: »

Cowen and all the FFG political elite never have to wait many hours in A&E to be get immediate essential health treatment like the rest of us. It's understandable that one of the men involved in the misery of the major economic crash would have anger directed at him.

The use of FFG is a sure sign that the opinions contained in the post can be safely ignored.

JohnnyFlash

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The use of FFG is a sure sign that the opinions contained in the post can be safely ignored.

Spinmaster Flash, the FG stalwart, deflecting any criticism of his party.

Eric Cartman

klaaaz wrote: »

Why you directing this at me? Wasn't he treated in the private Beacon hospital rather than the likes of a general A&E like the rest of us would? I said that I understand why there is anger by the victims of the economic policies directed by FF leaders at the time which resulted in misery for alot of people.

you say that like the beacon is some unattainable palace. Most people making 75k+ (not even 'rich) would have private health insurance that would cover this, and a lot more even below that would have a private or semi private room.

Its not some ivory palace only accessible to people you seem to think have millions knocking about.

Ted Johnson

klaaaz wrote: »

Why you directing this at me? Wasn't he treated in the private Beacon hospital rather than the likes of a general A&E like the rest of us would? I said that I understand why there is anger by the victims of the economic policies directed by FF leaders at the time which resulted in misery for alot of people.

What kind of misery have these losers ever faced? A reduction in their dole?

biko

In other news
"Well wishes continue to flood in for seriously ill Brian Cowen"
https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/home/429429/well-wishes-continue-to-flood-in-for-seriously-ill-brian-cowen.html

I suppose it's what the journalist choose to focus on.

Jupiter Mulligan

Eric Cartman wrote: »

you say that like the beacon is some unattainable palace. Most people making 75k+ (not even 'rich) would have private health insurance that would cover this, and a lot more even below that would have a private or semi private room.

Its not some ivory palace only accessible to people you seem to think have millions knocking about.

My PHI costs me €2.10 a day. Excellent value for money. That's less than I pay for the flat white that I enjoy daily as I study the latest drivel from Fintan O'Toole and Una Mullally in the free Irish Times provided by my local coffee bar.

Best wishes to Biffo though - he's far too young to die.

riffmongous

Ted Johnson wrote: »

What kind of misery have these losers ever faced? A reduction in their dole?

Forgotten already? No wonder the country is f*cked with these goldfish memories. 15% of the country were losers at one point according to you

https://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/3122048/original/?width=630&version=3122048

Ted Johnson

riffmongous wrote: »

Forgotten already? No wonder the country is f*cked with these goldfish memories. 15% of the country were losers at one point according to you

https://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/3122048/original/?width=630&version=3122048

What I mean is the kind of loser who feels its acceptable to abuse a very ill man online, has never worked a day in his life.

klaaaz

Eric Cartman wrote: »

you say that like the beacon is some unattainable palace. Most people making 75k+ (not even 'rich) would have private health insurance that would cover this, and a lot more even below that would have a private or semi private room.

Its not some ivory palace only accessible to people you seem to think have millions knocking about.

People making 75K plus are a minority in this country, and your beloved politicians fall nicely into that category including those on multiple gold plated pensions.

Sure there were nearly 600,000 people waiting over a year and a half waiting for a consultant appointment. https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/number-of-people-on-hospital-waiting-lists-jumps-by-800-926009.html
These are the same people who experience horrendous third world conditions in A&E because they are not wealthy enough.

JohnnyFlash

Ted Johnson wrote: »

What I mean is the kind of loser who feels its acceptable to abuse a very ill man online, has never worked a day in his life.

There’s a tranche of people who spend their entire days moaning and giving out about living in one of the most prosperous, safe, and civilised countries in the world. They’d advocate for turning the place into some sort of socialist state. As a lad once said to me; the ultimate nightmare for most of them would be having to work in a socialist workers republic.

Eric Cartman

klaaaz wrote: »

People making 75K plus are a minority in this country, and your beloved politicians fall nicely into that category including those on multiple gold plated pensions.

Sure there were nearly 600,000 people waiting over a year and a half waiting for a consultant appointment. https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/number-of-people-on-hospital-waiting-lists-jumps-by-800-926009.html
These are the same people who experience horrendous third world conditions in A&E because they are not wealthy enough.

:rolleyes: ahh come off it. the HSE isn't the worlds best health service but stop referring to it like that.

Sonny noggs

Eric Cartman wrote: »

:rolleyes: ahh come off it. the HSE isn't the worlds best health service but stop referring to it like that.

You would wonder why half of Africa want to come here if we have such third world services.

McCrack

klaaaz wrote: »

People making 75K plus are a minority in this country, and your beloved politicians fall nicely into that category including those on multiple gold plated pensions.

Sure there were nearly 600,000 people waiting over a year and a half waiting for a consultant appointment. https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/number-of-people-on-hospital-waiting-lists-jumps-by-800-926009.html
These are the same people who experience horrendous third world conditions in A&E because they are not wealthy enough.

Nice try

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

klaaaz wrote: »

Why you directing this at me? Wasn't he treated in the private Beacon hospital rather than the likes of a general A&E like the rest of us would? I said that I understand why there is anger by the victims of the economic policies directed by FF leaders at the time which resulted in misery for alot of people.

The rest of us? More than politicians are treated in private hospitals. Many of us have access as well.

Amirani

klaaaz wrote: »

These are the same people who experience horrendous third world conditions in A&E because they are not wealthy enough.

I'm guessing you haven't been to A&E in a third world country, because if you had then you wouldn't be making comments like this.

TCM

Amirani wrote:

Are you a bit dim or do you really have such a simplistic view on things?

...and your a bit of an intellectual I suppose.

Jupiter Mulligan

TCM wrote: »

...and your a bit of an intellectual I suppose.

Whether he is or not, I'd imagine that he knows the difference between your and you're.

biko

Outrage journalism is the latest after click-bait journalism.
Anything to get people to click the links.

Rjd2

biko wrote: »

Outrage journalism is the latest after click-bait journalism.
Anything to get people to click the links.

Agreed. Another thing to be wary about any article which is pretty much titled

"people are outraged by blah blah been cast as whoever"

Good chance nobody is outraged and the twitter accounts they have linked to to highlight the supposed outrage are nobodies. However when it comes to so much US culture wars that does not matter, got to get the hot takes for retweets. Blah blah..white privledge,,,tolerant left,,sjws...NAZIS...shariah law" you know the usual buzzwords. :pac:

Bill Maher nailed this much better than I could.

NIMAN

Yip, that about sums it all up.

freshpopcorn

Yes people spend to much time engaging with online idiots. Some people love a fight/battle tough!

Graces7

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

They don't actually leave the rest of us waiting on trolleys with suspected bleeding on the brain either.

I agree with you but have you read "Rate my Hospital " comments?

Pawwed Rig

Amirani wrote: »

I'm guessing you haven't been to A&E in a third world country, because if you had then you wouldn't be making comments like this.

I have. If you have cash it is fine actually. Probably not great for the majority of locals though.

Keyzer

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Sites like here and the Journal are filled with mouth-breathing morons. Most of them have no job, no partner, and no hope. So they just spend their days complaining, ranting, and soapboxing. Very easy lads to wind up as well I’ve noticed. You wouldn’t be dealing with our intellectual elite.

Couldn't agree more - its given a platform for people who, in the past, would have met up in some sh1thole pub and slagged off everyone and anyone, to now feel they have a voice worth listening to and spout utter bollocks and tripe all day long.

The journal is particularly bad, no matter the article, some plebite posts some bitchy & idiotic remark and all hell breaks loose.

Its like monkeys with uzi's...

Loafing Oaf

klaaaz wrote: »

It's understandable that one of the men involved in the misery of the major economic crash would have anger directed at him.

And you don't see anything inappropriate with venting that 'anger' when the object is fighting for his life.

klaaaz

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

And you don't see anything inappropriate with venting that 'anger' when the object is fighting for his life.

I said that it was understandable, I didn't justify it. Rather than attack the messenger, attack the Twitterati who post stuff like that over there.

rireland

Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »

My PHI costs me €2.10 a day. Excellent value for money. That's less than I pay for the flat white that I enjoy daily as I study the latest drivel from Fintan O'Toole and Una Mullally in the free Irish Times provided by my local coffee bar.

Best wishes to Biffo though - he's far too young to die.

You don't get anything daily for your 2.10.