Tyre wear

sligopaul

Apologies in advance if this has been done to death but was looking to get a feel for what people are seeing on their own cars and expectations

I have two cars

Citroen DS5 running 235/45/18 , wearing Goodyear F1 on rear and some form of Khumo on the front, currently getting 12k-14k a pair , very little variance front to back

BMW 1 Series - running 205/50/17 wearing Pirelli P7 upfront and Hankook S1 evo2 on the rears. Looking at the Hankooks this morning they are on the wear indicators after 10k miles

I understand there are variables such as the driver and location ( we are rural with not great roads ) but do people think these are reasonable and can they suggest some tyres more suitable to wear rather than performance

Thanks

djivide_

seems fairly low to me. I have bridgestone potenzas on my 530d and have done 33k km so far and a good bit away from the wear markers, i expect another 5-6k until i change them before the autumn/winter.

I would have a heavy right foot which you would think would not be good for wear but been very impressed with these tyres. My car is X-drive
or 4 wheel drive so it has kept the wear fairly even over the 3 tyres unlike previous 520d which wore rear tyres much faster but still got more than 10k miles out of a set

tyres on current car :
245/35/20 front and 275/30/20 rear

Isambard

very low mileage, my Wife's Opel Mokka has just past 40000km and there's loads of tread left.

Mjolnir

Had 225/45/17 Bridgestone proenza runflats got over 30k on them that being said they were on it for a bit when I got it too.
Currently have continental conti sports runflats not sure how many km but I'd imagine at this point roughly 10k still look new. Both in rural Ireland on a mix of back and main roads at varying speeds on an e90 318d
Definitely something up no way should a tire only last 10k - 14k. Runflats get more than that and they wear away quicker

bazz26

Is the wear evenly spread across the tyre or just on the shoulder?

grogi

sligopaul wrote: »

Apologies in advance if this has been done to death but was looking to get a feel for what people are seeing on their own cars and expectations

I have two cars

Citroen DS5 running 235/45/18 , wearing Goodyear F1 on rear and some form of Khumo on the front, currently getting 12k-14k a pair , very little variance front to back

BMW 1 Series - running 205/50/17 wearing Pirelli P7 upfront and Hankook S1 evo2 on the rears. Looking at the Hankooks this morning they are on the wear indicators after 10k miles

I understand there are variables such as the driver and location ( we are rural with not great roads ) but do people think these are reasonable and can they suggest some tyres more suitable to wear rather than performance

Thanks

The tyre wear heavily depends on type of driving, surface and driving style...

For starters, city driving, which requires loads of braking, acceleration and cornering, wears the tyres much faster than steady motorway cruises.
There is also a huge variance in abrasivity of tarmac. Newer roads are typically built from a smooth (and quiet) tarmac, while older ones have rough and loud surface...

If there is no major difference in wear between sides of the car and sides of the tyre (exp. outside wears much faster), that's basically what it is and nothing to worry about.

I consistently get around 20kkm from a set of tyres over all my cars.

sligopaul

Yep wear even across the face of the hankooks. Road surfaces can be a mix of N roads and local roads with a tar and chip type surface

Isambard

grogi wrote: »

The tyre wear heavily depends on type of driving, surface and driving style...

For starters, city driving, which requires loads of braking, acceleration and cornering, wears the tyres much faster than steady motorway cruises.
There is also a huge variance in abrasivity of tarmac. Newer roads are typically built from a smooth (and quiet) tarmac, while older ones have rough and loud surface...

If there is no major difference in wear between sides of the car and sides of the tyre (exp. outside wears much faster), that's basically what it is and nothing to worry about.

I consistently get around 20kkm from a set of tyres over all my cars.

that's very low.

grogi

grogi wrote: »

I consistently get around 20kkm from a set of tyres over all my cars.

The ops is bad but that exceptionally poor return for a set of tyres. On my Gti and with a heavy right foot I get over 30k Kms on front and I’ve had the rears on so long I’m not even sure but has to be around 45 - 50k kms and there is still a decent bit left in them. GY eagle F1’s all around. Very mixed driving with commute into/out of city everyday (hard driving on backroads followed by city traffic) and long motorway drives at the weekend.

creedp

grogi wrote: »

The tyre wear heavily depends on type of driving, surface and driving style...

For starters, city driving, which requires loads of braking, acceleration and cornering, wears the tyres much faster than steady motorway cruises.
There is also a huge variance in abrasivity of tarmac. Newer roads are typically built from a smooth (and quiet) tarmac, while older ones have rough and loud surface...

If there is no major difference in wear between sides of the car and sides of the tyre (exp. outside wears much faster), that's basically what it is and nothing to worry about.

I consistently get around 20kkm from a set of tyres over all my cars.

Tyre Brands can make a big difference to mileage especially on the front of a fwd. On a 2L S-max (225/50/17) I got between 10k miles from Continentals Sports contact 5 to 15k miles on Michelin Primacy with Goodyear asymmetric 3 being somewhere in between.

grogi

Isambard wrote: »

that's very low.

I'm not going to move somewhere else to have slower wear rate

DaveyDave

As others have already mentioned it depends on the tyre itself too. Others have mentioned the Bridgestone Potenza lasting, while the Turanza I had needed to be changed at 20,000km. There was still a bit of tread left bit the grip disappeared quickly at around 3mm.

Best thing to do is make a list of a few recommended good tyres then compare the longevity of them based on other motorists experience. It could be that one of the more expensive ones on your list last longer and work out cheaper in the long run.

John_Rambo

Jeremias Flaky Quiz wrote: »

The ops is bad but that exceptionally poor return for a set of tyres. On my Gti and with a heavy right foot I get over 30k Kms on front and I’ve had the rears on so long I’m not even sure but has to be around 45 - 50k kms and there is still a decent bit left in them. GY eagle F1’s all around. Very mixed driving with commute into/out of city everyday (hard driving on backroads followed by city traffic) and long motorway drives at the weekend.

+1 for once we agree! Nox knows tyres! I've had a few GTi's, Ford Focus GT's, Alfa GTv's and a few more HH's that are so out of fashion now.
The Continentals that come with the VW cars are made of putty. Asymmetrical Eagle F1's are best for longevity, low noise and (importantly) pumping water and aquaplaning avoidance. They're a good, solid, dependable, high quality safe tyre suitable to our climate and road conditions.

On a side note, I've done a few track days with proper hard driving in the cars and the GoodYear Eagle F1's only lost a few mm in comparison to the standard stock Continentals... but, the Continentals did have better grip in the dry and made great noise!

Another side note... Eagle F1's were absolutely useless in snow, they acted like slicks and made the car undriveable on any incline, I'd imagine the Continentals would be better with the softer rubber and thread pattern, but 2011 was a long time ago and how often do we get snow?

bodonnell

Changed Michelin primacy 3's recently at 40k, mostly motorway driving

theteal

Isambard wrote: »

that's very low.

Depends on a few factors really. The likes of Dunlop Blueresponse (I think) and Goodyear Efficientgrip tyres are very highly rated for dry/wet performance and road noise ect - quite cheap too @ £40-50 over here. From what I understand, they're made of a softer compound which accounts for excellent grip, the downside is that they're known to only last about 12 - 15k miles.

dmc17

Jeremias Flaky Quiz wrote: »

The ops is bad but that exceptionally poor return for a set of tyres. On my Gti and with a heavy right foot I get over 30k Kms on front and I’ve had the rears on so long I’m not even sure but has to be around 45 - 50k kms and there is still a decent bit left in them. GY eagle F1’s all around. Very mixed driving with commute into/out of city everyday (hard driving on backroads followed by city traffic) and long motorway drives at the weekend.

Which variant of Eagle F1 are you using?

19s on an AWD nearly 18 month old Sorento.
At 40k kms fronts down to just over 3mm & rears down to 5mm.... Swapped then....will be changed at 60k kms.
Nexan nfera or something on it.

dmc17

dmc17 wrote: »

Which variant of Eagle F1 are you using?

Currently 3 on the front and 2 on the rear. It was 2 all around at first but I wore the fronts and they were replaced with 3’s. I’ve now worn through the set of 3’s on the front and 2’s on the rear still have life left.

CiniO

Type of surface can make unimaginable difference.

OP claims he drives on country roads with not great surface, so quick tyre wear is probably unavoidable.
Roads made by "surface dressing" technology are the worst for tyre wear.

When I used to live in Mayo and drive on particularly abbrasive tarmac road, with plenty of bends, my tyres normally wouldn't last more than 15k km and that's assuming rotation between front and rear. Otherwise fronts would be gone by 10k km, and rears would be gone by 20k km.

Now living in Poland, 20k km only wore about 1mm of my tyres, so going down from 7mm to 2mm, should last 100k kms.