Outside Stop Valve

Spark Plug

Went to replace a leaking kitchen sink tap at the weekend, went outside my gate in order to close the outside stop valve to turn off the water, however despite me turn the stop valve to closed position, the water was not fully stopped pressure was reduced alright but water was still flowing. I suspect the outside stop valve needs replacing. Can you arrange to get an engineer to look at this? in a worst case scenario if a pipe bursts inside my house I am now unable to stop the mains supply. 

gctest50

You should have a stopcock under the sink or somewhere to stop it

Darc19

gctest50 wrote: »

You should have a stopcock under the sink or somewhere to stop it

Sure it's far easier to blame Irish water than to use common sense.

Op, the first result on Google asking how to turn off supply gives you this excellent advice from Irish water
https://www.water.ie/for-home/first-fix/inside-stop-valves/

GreeBo

Darc19 wrote: »

gctest50 wrote: »

You should have a stopcock under the  sink or somewhere to stop it

Sure it's far easier to blame Irish water than to use common sense.

And what does the OP do if the leak is between the external valve and their stopcock?

Darc19

GreeBo wrote: »

And what does the OP do if the leak is between the external valve and their stopcock?

The op was replacing a leaking kitchen tap.

Tommy Kelly

Darc19 wrote: »

GreeBo wrote: »

And what does the OP do if the leak is between the external valve and their stopcock?

The op was replacing a leaking kitchen tap.

The OP won't be able to install an Inside Stop Valve or replace the leaking tap now as the Outside Stop Valve in the Boundary Box is inoperable / not holding pressure. 

Irish Water: Dylan

Spark Plug wrote: »

Went to replace a leaking kitchen sink tap at the weekend, went outside my gate in order to close the outside stop valve to turn off the water, however despite me turn the stop valve to closed position, the water was not fully stopped pressure was reduced alright but water was still flowing. I suspect the outside stop valve needs replacing. Can you arrange to get an engineer to look at this? in a worst case scenario if a pipe bursts inside my house I am now unable to stop the mains supply. 

Hi Spark Plug,

Thank you for the message.

If you would like to private message us the following a member of our team will look into this for you:

- Full Name;
- Address; and
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Thanks,
Dylan

Spark Plug

Dylan just sent you a pm

House does have an inside stop valve, mains directly feeds kitchen tap and outside tap hence the importance of the outside valve, it would be no harm to install one but need outside valve sorted first. Thanks everyone for their replies.

Tommy Kelly

Well if you have an inside stop valve and it's operable you need not worry about your house being flooded if an internal pipe bursts like you mentioned in your OP. The inside stop valve isolates the whole house from the external mains pipe supply. An operable & accessible inside stop valve at the point of entry is a must in any home. 

GreeBo

Darc19 wrote:

The op was replacing a leaking kitchen tap.

Which isnt the question I asked.

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

Well if you have an inside stop valve and it's operable you need not worry about your house being flooded if an internal pipe bursts like you mentioned in your OP. The inside stop valve isolates the whole house from the external mains pipe supply. An operable & accessible inside stop valve at the point of entry is a must in any home. 

Again only if the leak is after the stop valve. Any leak could easily be between the stop valve and external valve, or in the stop valve within the kitchen itself.

Bottom line is that the external valve needs to work to isolate the entire house, thats why its there.

Tommy Kelly

GreeBo wrote: »

Originally posted by Darc19


The op was replacing a leaking kitchen tap.

Which isnt the question I asked.

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

Well if you have an inside stop valve and it's operable you need not worry about your house being flooded if an internal pipe bursts like you mentioned in your OP. The inside stop valve isolates the whole house from the external mains pipe supply. An operable & accessible inside stop valve at the point of entry is a must in any home. 

Again only if the leak is after the stop valve. Any leak could easily be between the stop valve and external valve, or in the stop valve within the kitchen itself.

Bottom line is that the external valve needs to work to isolate the entire house, thats why its there.

Not to sure why you quoted me to tell me that but like I already said an operable & accessible ISV also isolates the house. Considering 99 per cent of ISV's are located at the point of entry any leak between the Boundary Box and the point of entry will be external. I fully understand that the OSV in the Boundary Box needs to be operable. If not IW will see that it will be repaired / replaced.

To qualify for the first fix one must have a fully operable & accessible ISV. It confirms if a known leak on the property is on an internal pipe or on the external mains pipe.

Darc19

GreeBo wrote: »

Which isnt the question I asked.



Again only if the leak is after the stop valve. Any leak could easily be between the stop valve and external valve, or in the stop valve within the kitchen itself.

Bottom line is that the external valve needs to work to isolate the entire house, thats why its there.

The op was changing a leaking kitchen tap. That was the purpose of his turning off the water.

That is done by turning off at the inside stop valve, so any other comments about the external valve are moot unless the OP has an entirely different query about a leak on the lawn or similar.