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Trying to identify an aquatic creature

  • 28-06-2019 10:36pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering if anyone could tell me what this in the photo is. I recently created a pond in a marshy part of the garden and have had plenty wildlife attracted to it such as dragonflies, water skaters, boatmen, etc. But today while skimming some leaves I caught this guy in the mesh and was stumped as to what it was. It was about 3cm long and the way it was wriggling made me first think lizard or newt. But its back was like the carapace of a prawn and it had a pincer similar to an earwig with which it was attacking the mesh under it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Zoo4m8


    Great diving beetle larvae,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭coillsaille


    Thanks Zoo4m8, it would have taken me a lot of googling to find the answer. Good to know my new pond is developing it's own ecosystem including such predators as these. I'm after watching a youtube clip of it preying on tadpoles.
    I read a bit just there about the great diving beetle and apparently they fly at night and look for the reflection of water in moonlight. I have a few small solar lights shining on the pond at night so that must have made it highly visible to the one who produced this larvae.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,586 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Seeing that boatman, to the right, made me shudder!

    Such enchanting little things. When I was about eleven, I caught one in a pond and dropped it out of the net into the palm of my hand, to examine it.

    I was peering at it closely. Fascinated. When, Bang!!! The pain almost paralysed me! I remember staggering to the bank, barely able to comprehend such pain existed.

    Those things have scared the living daylights out of me ever since.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Stigura wrote: »
    Seeing that boatman, to the right, made me shudder!

    Such enchanting little things. When I was about eleven, I caught one in a pond and dropped it out of the net into the palm of my hand, to examine it.

    I was peering at it closely. Fascinated. When, Bang!!! The pain almost paralysed me! I remember staggering to the bank, barely able to comprehend such pain existed.

    Those things have scared the living daylights out of me ever since.

    Oh Yes! Been there. It's comparable to a bee sting. Not a creature you want in the pond if you have goldfish. Their bite is venomous and they'd suck a goldfish dry in no time at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,586 ✭✭✭Stigura


    :D Glory Be!!! You are the first person I've ever 'met' who has shared that experience! High Fives!


    Tell ye what though? Bee sting? I was gonna say; I'd take a bee or wasp over one of Those things any day! I couldn't Believe the pain!


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Oh my, brought back thirty year old memories there! Bloody fcuk I couldn't believe the little bugger packed such a punch. Innocent days..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭coillsaille


    Well that's good to know! I had no idea the boatman could sting, not that I was planning on handling them but still good info to store in the memory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Well that's good to know! I had no idea the boatman could sting, not that I was planning on handling them but still good info to store in the memory.

    Just to be pedantic. It's a bite rather than a sting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,586 ✭✭✭Stigura


    :D Love it!!! Shall I get the badges made? Nice little enameled broach ones. Water Boatman on them. And, what ....?

    We need something to indicate indescribable pain. Thunder bolt? Hollow Point bullet?

    We can meet, every few years. Stroke our badges and say things like; " F***, yeah!!! I remember That one, alright! The Batts Pond. Henfield. 19.... "

    LMAO! What an exclusive little club we are!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭coillsaille


    Just to be pedantic. It's a bite rather than a sting.

    It is just a pure bite or is there any venom or something involved also? Just wondering based on the descriptions above, if it's pain caused by biting alone they must have some set of jaws on them!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    It's the bite that hurts, as it's designed to pierce prey. There is venom that acts on the prey but doesn't add to the pain of the bite for us.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Boatmen survivors club, secret handshake and all. Honestly i was warned about just about everything but never once them..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭coillsaille


    Boatmen survivors club, secret handshake and all. Honestly i was warned about just about everything but never once them..

    Likewise. I'm country raised and spent a good portion of my youth on the bog and around the lake near home so well used to seeing the boatman. But I had to reach my 40s to learn here now that it can actually hurt you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Once stung by a Bullet Ant, all others are just minor temporary annoyances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭baaba maal


    I thought I read that the bite from the (adult) Great Diving Beetle is extremely painful also?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    baaba maal wrote: »
    I thought I read that the bite from the (adult) Great Diving Beetle is extremely painful also?

    They have some jaws on them for sure but, having handled dozens of them, I have never been bitten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭cd07


    Have handled loads of them in my time and never been bitten. After reading this.....I'll never touch one again!!!


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