All new electrified cars must emit noise to warn pedestrians from July

drunkmonkey

I get this, trying to teach kids to cross the road and it's, stop, look, listen..then your stuck wondering how to teach them to look out for EV's

There doesn't seem to be any agreed noise they should make,

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/107077/all-new-electrified-cars-must-emit-noise-to-warn-pedestrians-from-july

unkel

Hyundai Ioniq has this as standard, they call it VESS. You can switch it off. Several other EVs already have it too.

Bit meh imho. People will just have to get used to cars no longer emitting cancerous particles or making a lot of noise.

punisher5112

unkel wrote: »

Hyundai Ioniq has this as standard, they call it VESS. You can switch it off. Several other EVs already have it too.

Bit meh imho. People will just have to get used to cars no longer emitting cancerous particles or making a lot of noise.

I will miss that roar from a V8, V10, V12 though....

irishgrover

It's the one part of my car I would really love to hack. Personalised VESS would be great.....
Train noise for general usage, ice cream van during the summer to disappoint and confuse people.... Jaws music at the seaside, imperial march from starwars, when I arrive at work....

punisher5112

irishgrover wrote: »

It's the one part of my car is really love to hack. Personalised VESS would be great.....
Train noise for general usage, ice cream van during the summer to disappoint and confuse people.... Jaws music at the seaside, imperial march from starwars, when I arrive at work....

Train horn is the best....

punisher5112

People need to be more aware of their surroundings to be honest....

With more tech such as sensors and on board cameras then collisions will decrease as these devices will help.

If out it's quite simple before you cross actually take your eyes off your phone screen and look.

Del2005

punisher5112 wrote: »

People need to be more aware of their surroundings to be honest....

With more tech such as sensors and on board cameras then collisions will decrease as these devices will help.

If out it's quite simple before you cross actually take your eyes off your phone screen and look.

What about people with bad eyesight or none? They rely on audible clues.

punisher5112

Del2005 wrote: »

What about people with bad eyesight or none? They rely on audible clues.

Obviously that's understandable but they tend to be the most careful and as I said with all the new aids onboard this will help big time.

You tend to also see those that can't see use crossings.... Big difference to the rest that just step out or run out.

K.Flyer

punisher5112 wrote: »

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If out it's quite simple before you cross actually take your eyes off your phone screen and look.

This is it in a nutshell.
And most of them are using headphones or earbuds, so they hear nothing anyway.
It's scary the amount of people walking out in front of all types of traffic.
Maybe we need to go back to the days of the flag man

K.Flyer

Del2005 wrote: »

What about people with bad eyesight or none? They rely on audible clues.

From what I have seen, they tend to use pedestrian crossings, especially ones with the audio aid, more correctly than sighted people.
Plus, the average person tends to be very helpful and will assist them when they need to cross.

There is also a role for road users to play in all of this in being more attentive and observant while driving.

LeBash

Dip****s who are so engrossed in whatever crap they buried their face into their phone for. I've noticed more and more people step out in front of me since I got the EV.

There is 1 particular road i pass twice a day and I see people walk out onto it almost everyday without even looking.

It used to happen with my 12 year old diesel often but not as much.

...Ghost...

LeBash wrote: »

Dip****s who are so engrossed in whatever crap they buried their face into their phone for. I've noticed more and more people step out in front of me since I got the EV.

There is 1 particular road i pass twice a day and I see people walk out onto it almost everyday without even looking.

It used to happen with my 12 year old diesel often but not as much.

It's got nothing to do with your EV. They are so self absorbed either on their phone, or in some sort of day dream. I see it daily too and it was the same when I was diving a V6 with quad exhaust. At least with that, I could throttle in neutral and scare the bejaysus out of them. Personal responsibility only applies to those who carry insurance.

A law to stop people using their phones on public streets with earphones in might actually be a much more useful law.

Typical E.U nonsense.

I've never had any issues, I'm conscious of the fact people might not hear me when going slow so I use the horn if needed.

Luckily the my i3 has no artificial noise maker. The 44 Kwh does and it's irritating as hell inside the car, it would drive me mad, completely unnecessary and one thing I would permanent remove through hacking like I did in the Leaf.

Imagine hundreds of cars in the street emitting a different frequency ? it will drive people mad.

I'm driving silent cars at slow speeds for 8.5 years now, no issues.

SlowBlowin

It has to be:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdWswvLPdE0

n97 mini

...Ghost... wrote: »

it was the same when I was diving a V6 with quad exhaust.

6 cylinders and 4 exhaust pipes? How did that work?

...Ghost...

n97 mini wrote: »

6 cylinders and 4 exhaust pipes? How did that work?

Custom pipes. And it worked soooo well :cool:

Borderfox

punisher5112 wrote: »

Obviously that's understandable but they tend to be the most careful and as I said with all the new aids onboard this will help big time.

You tend to also see those that can't see use crossings.... Big difference to the rest that just step out or run out.

Can't be relying on aids all the time, drivers should be looking out the windscreen

Pkiernan

They should have a sensor that when it detects pedestrians plays the clip from The Snapper "Get out of da bleedin way ya dozy bollix"

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yA0eOnjNpGI&ved=2ahUKEwiTmdHqzN7iAhX3ThUIHYP7AscQwqsBMAB6BAgFEAU&usg=AOvVaw1XSeVq0W0cqqXzKNrQh4fx

Hobosan

Borderfox wrote: »

Can't be relying on aids all the time, drivers should be looking out the windscreen

That has been refuted. Studies clearly show that looking out the windscreen impairs phone use.

loyatemu

what a load of nonsense - EVs aren't silent anyway, and modern ICE engines are fairly quiet at low speeds. Most of the noise in both cases is from the tyres hitting the road.

punisher5112

Borderfox wrote: »

Can't be relying on aids all the time, drivers should be looking out the windscreen

I meant on safety side of things as sometimes the sensors are quicker to react....

There unfortunately is no cure for stupidity though...

Timfy

Patser

This will be the new ring tone craze! Loads of ads in backs of magazines offering cool car tones - like Lamborghini Diablo, Aston Martin V12, Crazy Frog, UFO noises, witty 'Watch Out, the Wife is driving!' announcements, football chants, Game of Thrones dragon noises.....


Until our town centres are a nightmare cacophony of competing muppets, and they're all banned again for the sake of sanity

Shefwedfan

Any chance you can stick the jaws music on the car?

ezra_

This guy has the right idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UotZ_ZLB5A

Rafal

How about a gong:



https://www.teslarati.com/diy-tesla-model-s-pedestrian-alert-horn-oblivious/

Del2005

K.Flyer wrote: »

From what I have seen, they tend to use pedestrian crossings, especially ones with the audio aid, more correctly than sighted people.
Plus, the average person tends to be very helpful and will assist them when they need to cross.

There is also a role for road users to play in all of this in being more attentive and observant while driving.

Since nearly every road user is now ignoring red lights it's bad enough that they can't hear cyclists breaking the red lights, when they can't hear the cars ignoring the red light is what they are in danger. Cars are getting more automated so people are paying less attention now.

Pkiernan

ezra_ wrote: »

This guy has the right idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UotZ_ZLB5A

Look how clean the streets are in that video.

the culture of deference

Halfdane

Deleted User wrote: »

A law to stop people using their phones on public streets with earphones in might actually be a much more useful law.

You want to bring in a law to stop people using their phones in public? Or listening to their music in public? I’ve heard it all now.

Halfdane

Halfdane wrote: »

You want to bring in a law to stop people using their phones in public? Or listening to their music in public? I’ve heard it all now.

Absolutely, ban mobiles in public !

loyatemu

just ban humans from the streets, unless they're in a car.

maybe we need to go back to having a dude with a red flag walking in front?

biko

the culture of deference wrote: »

Video of motorbike wanker revving

What a wanker

rivegauche

I switch off the noise as soon as I start the car and only switch it on when I enter the pedestrianised parts of towns where pedestrians aren't paying attention.