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Any 4k Satellite Boxes Recommendations

  • 08-06-2019 2:06pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭


    4k Satellite Boxes Recommendations with out all the bells and whistles
    (android rubbish). For 4k UHD Astra 1 19e and Hotbird 13e .In the Dublin area ,with a budget of 300/400 euros.

    Any dealers suggestions would be great .

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Gigablue UE 4K very solid box, or one of or VU+ 4K reciecers. Buy online at World of Sat in the UK or HM Sat Shop in Germany.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    Gigablue UE is cable focused. You'd be better with the uhd quad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    M5 wrote: »
    Gigablue UE is cable focused. You'd be better with the uhd quad


    They are not. Its just the name of the range. They come with various plug n play tuners (so there are various configs)


    • FBC Cable Tuner
    • PnP Gigablue Single DVB-S2x Tuner v.2 (Optional)
    • PnP Gigablue Dual DVB-S2x Tuner v.2 (Optional)
    • PnP Gigablue Single DVB-C/T2 Tuner v.2 (H. 265) (Optional)
    • PnP Gigablue Twin DVB-C/T2 Tuner v.2 (H.265) (Optional)

    The there's the Trio and Quad range.

    I have a Gigablue. They are not necessarily worth the price tag.

    If its a single tuner then look at the OCTAGON SF8008 4K UHD 2160p H.265 HEVC Bargain at STG 99.

    DVB-S2X tuner and a DVB-T tuner

    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/octagon-sf8008?filter_name=sf8008

    or Twin DVB-S2 is STG109
    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/octagon-sf8008-twin-s2x?filter_name=sf8008


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    STB. wrote: »
    They are not. Its just the name of the range. They come with various plug n play tuners (so there are various configs)


    • FBC Cable Tuner
    • PnP Gigablue Single DVB-S2x Tuner v.2 (Optional)
    • PnP Gigablue Dual DVB-S2x Tuner v.2 (Optional)
    • PnP Gigablue Single DVB-C/T2 Tuner v.2 (H. 265) (Optional)
    • PnP Gigablue Twin DVB-C/T2 Tuner v.2 (H.265) (Optional)

    The there's the Trio and Quad range.

    I have a Gigablue. They are not necessarily worth the price tag.

    If its a single tuner then look at the OCTAGON SF8008 4K UHD 2160p H.265 HEVC Bargain at STG 99.

    DVB-S2X tuner and a DVB-T tuner

    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/octagon-sf8008?filter_name=sf8008

    or Twin DVB-S2 is STG109
    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/octagon-sf8008-twin-s2x?filter_name=sf8008


    The octagon is amazing value. Lightening fast as well. Bargain.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭druss


    I'm also in the market for a new sat box. I'm moving into a new house soon and I was actually thinking Gigablue UHD 4k as the solution. Justifying this expenditure on the SatIP and FBC features. Mainly SatIP, if I'm honest.

    Any feedback on how that works for you, STB or JDxtra?

    I was thinking that I could get Saorview and multisat coming into house in utility room, feeding into Gigablue and pc, which then feed data to 2 or 3 tvs, while also distributing an NC+ card in the Gigablue for football and boxing.

    Feedback welcome!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭lgs 4


    Thanks all for the suggestions .The UK retailers it's not dodgy boxes that are reconditioned or refurbished .With no come back .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    lgs 4 wrote: »
    Thanks all for the suggestions .The UK retailers it's not dodgy boxes that are reconditioned or refurbished .With no come back .

    World of Satellite are very reputable retailers, buying off them years. Buying local I'd be more cautious, especially when it comes to VU+ boxes (beware of clones!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    druss wrote: »
    I'm also in the market for a new sat box. I'm moving into a new house soon and I was actually thinking Gigablue UHD 4k as the solution. Justifying this expenditure on the SatIP and FBC features. Mainly SatIP, if I'm honest.

    Any feedback on how that works for you, STB or JDxtra?

    I was thinking that I could get Saorview and multisat coming into house in utility room, feeding into Gigablue and pc, which then feed data to 2 or 3 tvs, while also distributing an NC+ card in the Gigablue for football and boxing.

    Feedback welcome!
    I have mine setup as follows:

    One FBC tuner assigned to 28.2° E for all the UK FTA channels, allows 4 feeds over one cable using a Unicable LNB.
    The other FBC tuner is not used in FBC mode - it's connected to a diseqc switch for Astra 19.2° E and Hotbird 13.0° E.
    Then an antenna for DVB-T2 and Saorview.

    Using OpenViX 5.2 image, I just prefer that one.

    Using the Gigablue app, I stream live or recordings to a tablet. Then on a PC I stream from the box using VLC media player. Never had any real issues, have it since November - think I only restarted it once (after the initial messing around getting it setup of course!). The remote is OK, functional but not pleasant to hold (I prefer the VU+ remotes).

    Don't have any other experience with distribution beyond my simple enough setup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    STB. wrote: »
    They are not. Its just the name of the range. They come with various plug n play tuners (so there are various configs)


    • FBC Cable Tuner
    • PnP Gigablue Single DVB-S2x Tuner v.2 (Optional)
    • PnP Gigablue Dual DVB-S2x Tuner v.2 (Optional)
    • PnP Gigablue Single DVB-C/T2 Tuner v.2 (H. 265) (Optional)
    • PnP Gigablue Twin DVB-C/T2 Tuner v.2 (H.265) (Optional)

    The there's the Trio and Quad range.

    I have a Gigablue. They are not necessarily worth the price tag.

    If its a single tuner then look at the OCTAGON SF8008 4K UHD 2160p H.265 HEVC Bargain at STG 99.

    DVB-S2X tuner and a DVB-T tuner

    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/octagon-sf8008?filter_name=sf8008

    or Twin DVB-S2 is STG109
    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/octagon-sf8008-twin-s2x?filter_name=sf8008

    Are there back up images available similar to Vu Solo has?

    Does it run Oscam?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    abarkie wrote: »
    Are there back up images available similar to Vu Solo has?

    Does it run Oscam?


    OpenVix, OpenATV, OpenEight and PLI.

    Oscam-Yes. Multisteam-Yes.

    PowerVu without Streamrelay. I'd imagine so - but check with WOS.


    See it runs and uses Kodi's Media Player.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    STB. wrote: »
    OpenVix, OpenATV, OpenEight and PLI.

    Oscam-Yes. Multisteam-Yes.

    PowerVu without Streamrelay. I'd imagine so - but check with WOS.


    See it runs and uses Kodi's Media Player.

    Great

    Does it read / update a skylink card or would i need to use a cam?

    I can't see what type of card reader it is - I usually have this card in my technomate 5402, not my Vu Solo2, so it would be a great solution for me if that worked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    abarkie wrote: »
    Great

    Does it read / update a skylink card or would i need to use a cam?

    I can't see what type of card reader it is - I usually have this card in my technomate 5402, not my Vu Solo2, so it would be a great solution for me if that worked

    Don't know. I don't have a Skylink card. That the Czech one for 23.5E ? Its Irdeto (Ice) or Cryptoworks ? You'll have to use Oscam to read off the local card.

    The Octagon does not have a CI+ module. It has a smartcard slot.


    BTW. PVu working without Streamrelay as I thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    STB. wrote: »
    Don't know. I don't have a Skylink card. That the Czech one for 23.5E ? Its Irdeto (Ice) or Cryptoworks ? You'll have to use Oscam to read off the local card.

    The Octagon does not have a CI+ module. It has a smartcard slot.


    BTW. PVu working without Streamrelay as I thought.

    I think the card is Irdeto - I have a cam but is reads it in the card reader in the Technomate 5402

    Only want the card to be read by receiver, not bothered to use it wit Oscam

    Probably best ask WOS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭Stuxnet


    I have the Vu+ Duo 4K, 2 FBC tuners (Freesat and Hotbird hooked up ) and a Terrestrial tuner (Saorview)

    Cant say a bad word about it, running OpenATV 6.3 image - SLY-Look (Updated Jan 2019)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭rebeve


    Stuxnet wrote: »
    I have the Vu+ Duo 4K, 2 FBC tuners (Freesat and Hotbird hooked up ) and a Terrestrial tuner (Saorview)

    Cant say a bad word about it, running OpenATV 6.3 image - SLY-Look (Updated Jan 2019)

    I have the Duo 4k great box and well worth the money .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭druss


    JDxtra wrote: »
    I have mine setup as follows:

    One FBC tuner assigned to 28.2° E for all the UK FTA channels, allows 4 feeds over one cable using a Unicable LNB.
    The other FBC tuner is not used in FBC mode - it's connected to a diseqc switch for Astra 19.2° E and Hotbird 13.0° E.
    Then an antenna for DVB-T2 and Saorview.

    I've bought the Gigablue UE 4k and a GigaBlue UHD Trio 4K (this should be the client box, all going well). But we haven't moved house yet so I haven't started to set things up.

    Next purchases will be Unicable II LNB(s) and I presume a compatible switch. Do you , or any of the Vu Duo owners, have something like this?.

    One of my two FBC tuners will obviously be dedicated to 28.2° E.

    I'm not sure whether to buy two other unicable LNBs for Hotbird and Astra for the other FBC tuner or if that's overkill!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭druss


    Re:thinking the above:

    If I can get the Sat/IP or multiroom streaming working, then I presume the switch is redundant!

    So I could buy 3 x LNBs like these ones and get a unicable combiner instead for Astra and Hotbird like this one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    druss wrote: »
    Re:thinking the above:

    If I can get the Sat/IP or multiroom streaming working, then I presume the switch is redundant!

    So I could buy 3 x LNBs like these ones and get a unicable combiner instead for Astra and Hotbird like this one?

    Would you not have conflicts with three '32' LNBs?
    How would you separate their outputs?

    If you intend to have two side-by-side on the arm then the width of the LNB will be critical also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,613 ✭✭✭bassy


    hey guys ive 2 sat receivers in mind octagon sf8008 and Zgemma h7s,both are similar in price and both are twin sat inputs.which of the 2 would you pick or think is the better one ?.

    or is there a better sat receiver for a few quid more,say 100 to 200 euros price range.any advice or taughts on this greatly appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    @ bassy. I got the SF8008, the combo version.

    Its very fast.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,868 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    hey guys ive 2 sat receivers in mind octagon sf8008 and Zgemma h7s,both are similar in price and both are twin sat inputs. which of the 2 would you pick or think is the better one ?.

    or is there a better sat receiver for a few quid more,say 100 to 200 euros price range.any advice or taughts on this greatly appreciated.

    Are you sure the SF8008 has twin sat inputs?

    Only see single sat input on version from these sellers...
    https://www.satking.de/en/sat--co/tv-receiver/sat-receiver/octagon-sf8008-4k-uhd-2160p-h.265-hevc-e2-linux-dual-wifi-dvb-s2x--t2c-combo-receiver

    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/octagon-sf8008


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,613 ✭✭✭bassy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Ten Pin wrote: »


    Comes in 3 configs.

    Single Dvb-S2x

    Twin Dvb-S2x

    Combo Single Dvb-S2x and Dvb-C/T2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    STB. wrote: »
    @ bassy. I got the SF8008, the combo version.

    Its very fast.

    I'm kind of surprised that you went for that receiver STB ,its a Hisilicon Hi3798MV200 Huawei chipset ,a bit of an unknown when it comes to running Enigma 2.

    Its an ARM chip it seems ,whats the performance like ?

    I was looking at getting an SF8008 a few months back but held off due to the Hisilicon chip as the feedback from users was the software was poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Zardoz wrote: »
    I'm kind of surprised that you went for that receiver STB ,its a Hisilicon Hi3798MV200 Huawei chipset ,a bit of an unknown when it comes to running Enigma 2.

    Its an ARM chip it seems ,whats the performance like ?

    I was looking at getting an SF8008 a few months back but held off due to the Hisilicon chip as the feedback from users was the software was poor.

    The software is OE alliance and Octagon are feeding the kernels and commits to them. Blindscan works, which was a consideration for me as Gigablue have completely wrecked theirs and the images have become too big for the 800SE and UE plus ranges. Hilsilicon so its ARM.

    First box to actually support Kodi in h/w. Also does MIS no prob. Osc EMU straight off through DVBAPI.

    For the price those moving from 400MHZ/750MHZ boxes will notice straight away. Massive flash size as well. E2 boxes coming down in price, which is good to see. Boot/Reboot time is really fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    Has What Satellite WotSat magazine stopped publishing? Looked for it today and couldnt find it at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,613 ✭✭✭bassy


    theguzman wrote: »
    Has What Satellite WotSat magazine stopped publishing? Looked for it today and couldnt find it at all.

    stopped years ago.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    bassy wrote: »
    stopped years ago.....

    I used to buy it and it was an interesting read


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    STB. wrote: »
    The software is OE alliance and Octagon are feeding the kernels and commits to them. Blindscan works, which was a consideration for me as Gigablue have completely wrecked theirs and the images have become too big for the 800SE and UE plus ranges. Hilsilicon so its ARM.

    First box to actually support Kodi in h/w. Also does MIS no prob. Osc EMU straight off through DVBAPI.

    For the price those moving from 400MHZ/750MHZ boxes will notice straight away. Massive flash size as well. E2 boxes coming down in price, which is good to see. Boot/Reboot time is really fast.

    Sounds promising .

    What does it offer over say the Zgemma H7S which is slightly more expensive ?
    Whats the picture quality like on the Octagon ?

    There seem to be a few similar receivers ,the Octagon SF8008 ,Zgemma H9 and the Maxytec .
    Very powerful spec for the money .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Zardoz wrote: »
    Sounds promising .

    What does it offer over say the Zgemma H7S which is slightly more expensive ?
    Whats the picture quality like on the Octagon ?

    There seem to be a few similar receivers ,the Octagon SF8008 ,Zgemma H9 and the Maxytec .
    Very powerful spec for the money .

    Zgemma H7S

    ​BCM7251S/Brahma 15 Dual Core 1700Mhz 12K DMIPS
    4 Gig Flash
    1GB DDR3 RAM

    Octagon Sf8008

    ARM Hisilicon Hi3798MV200 Quad Core 64Bit (4x 1.6GHz) 15K DMIPS
    8 Gig Flash
    1 GB DDR4 RAM
    Blindscan
    Hardware Kodi playback


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    STB. wrote: »
    Zgemma H7S

    ​BCM7251S/Brahma 15 Dual Core 1700Mhz 12K DMIPS
    4 Gig Flash
    1GB DDR3 RAM

    Octagon Sf8008

    ARM Hisilicon Hi3798MV200 Quad Core 64Bit (4x 1.6GHz) 15K DMIPS
    8 Gig Flash
    1 GB DDR4 RAM
    Blindscan
    Hardware Kodi playback

    Yes I know specs wise the difference ,but in practical terms and performance is there much in them.

    You could argue that the H7S has an extra built in terrestrial tuner (Triple tuner) ,it has an internal hard drive option ,the software is alot more mature as its on the market longer and it has a trusted Broadcom ARM processor whereas the 8008 has the newer Huawei Arm processor.

    The H7 4GB flash space can have 4 different images running in multiboot ,1GB for each ,the SF8008 needs a micro SD card to run multiboot images I believe.
    The extra flash space on the SF8008 is not really relevant as you would never use that space in reality.

    That leaves the built in Kodi hardware playback,built in wifi and the blindscan .

    I guess its horses for courses as to which suits ones needs better ,both receivers are excellent value and spec .

    I'm tempted to try out the SF8008 now .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Zardoz wrote: »
    Yes I know specs wise the difference ,but in practical terms and performance is there much in them.

    You could argue that the H7S has an extra built in terrestrial tuner (Triple tuner) ,it has an internal hard drive option ,the software is alot more mature as its on the market longer and it has a trusted Broadcom ARM processor whereas the 8008 has the newer Huawei Arm processor.

    The H7 4GB flash space can have 4 different images running in multiboot ,1GB for each ,the SF8008 needs a micro SD card to run multiboot images I believe.
    The extra flash space on the SF8008 is not really relevant as you would never use that space in reality.

    That leaves the built in Kodi hardware playback,built in wifi and the blindscan .

    I guess its horses for courses as to which suits ones needs better ,both receivers are excellent value and spec .

    I'm tempted to try out the SF8008 now .


    Well I have the combo dvb-s2x and dvb-t config. I don't need an extra satellite tuner to be honest.

    They both use eMMC flash. The Octagon is double it though and has hw multiboot.

    The Octagon has a 64bit quad core processor running 4x 1.6GHz as distinct from the Dual core on the Zgemma. The same Hisilicon chip is used in Android boxes.

    You'd be surprised the number of people who use the internal flash for everything!

    Zgemma are using DDR3 as part of their RAM config. Octagon DDR4. Massive difference there.

    Personally I wouldn't touch anything that comes out of Airdigital, but that's because I remember when they were manufacturing clones.

    Support, support, support. First consideration, no matter what you are buying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 midozalouk


    STB. wrote: »
    They are not. Its just the name of the range. They come with various plug n play tuners (so there are various configs)


    • FBC Cable Tuner
    • PnP Gigablue Single DVB-S2x Tuner v.2 (Optional)
    • PnP Gigablue Dual DVB-S2x Tuner v.2 (Optional)
    • PnP Gigablue Single DVB-C/T2 Tuner v.2 (H. 265) (Optional)
    • PnP Gigablue Twin DVB-C/T2 Tuner v.2 (H.265) (Optional)

    The there's the Trio and Quad range.

    I have a Gigablue. They are not necessarily worth the price tag.

    If its a single tuner then look at the OCTAGON SF8008 4K UHD 2160p H.265 HEVC Bargain at STG 99.

    DVB-S2X tuner and a DVB-T tuner



    or Twin DVB-S2 is STG109


    Hello sir

    Do you still think Gigablue is overpriced ?

    I am comparing Gigablue UHD UE vs Octagon sf8008 ???

    Can you please help me ???


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