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Query on reconditioned engine

  • 20-05-2019 7:23pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭


    Query on behalf of someone else.

    2011 Vauxhall Astras engine is kaput. Timing chain broke and engine beyond economical to repair. Engine had 150000 miles on it. Everything else perfect on the car.

    Quote of 1600 euro for a reconditioned engine 70000 miles on it with 1 month warranty.

    Does the price sound reasonable?

    If the car is sold in ages months how does the fact that the car has reconditioned engine impact any resell price?

    How does it work from an NCT perspective as the millage on the car has gone from 150000 to 70000?


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  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The mileage doesn’t change. A 70k engine doesn’t remove 80k of wear and tear on the reat of the car.

    Also, that’s not a recon engine. Not with 1 months warranty it’s not. Steam cleaned used engine from a crashed scrap car for you and a fat wallet for the seller I reckon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    JayZeus wrote: »
    The mileage doesn’t change. A 70k engine doesn’t remove 80k of wear and tear on the reat of the car.

    Also, that’s not a recon engine. Not with 1 months warranty it’s not.

    So it's just a second hand engine then and the millage stays the same on the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,691 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    What are you getting with the engine, turbo, clutch, loom, some chaps make a crap of it and cut hoses/wires could cost you another 1000 to fit if not a clean removal, will they stand over the rest of the engine parts?
    Will they install it for you for €1600 would be pretty easy if they had yours and the donor car side by side or a cleanly removed engine with all the parts on it.

    You might have to write this off considering the age and make of the car, could be cheaper cut your losses and get another car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    What are you getting with the engine, turbo, clutch, loom, some chaps make a crap of it and cut hoses/wires could cost you another 1000 to fit if not a clean removal, will they stand over the rest of the engine parts?
    Will they install it for you for €1600 would be pretty easy if they had yours and the donor car side by side or a cleanly removed engine with all the parts on it.

    You might have to write this off considering the age and make of the car, could be cheaper cut your losses and get another car.

    No idea. It's for a family member. The same garage that's been serving the car is going to do it for 1600 all in.

    They are considering selling it in a few months but I'm not sure if they will get their 1600 back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭grogi


    What are you getting with the engine, turbo, clutch, loom, some chaps make a crap of it and cut hoses/wires could cost you another 1000 to fit if not a clean removal, will they stand over the rest of the engine parts?
    Will they install it for you for €1600 would be pretty easy if they had yours and the donor car side by side or a cleanly removed engine with all the parts on it.

    You might have to write this off considering the age and make of the car, could be cheaper cut your losses and get another car.

    So we are at the stage where 2011 astra costs 1600?!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,691 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    grogi wrote: »
    So we are at the stage where 2011 astra costs 1600?!

    If it was 1600 plus fitting you'd have to question it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,609 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    If the rest of the car is ok and the 1600 will get it back on the road for another year or two then go ahead and do it. Personally I'd cut my losses, scrap it and move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,100 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    If it was 1600 plus fitting you'd have to question it.

    €1600 supplied and fitted according to the OP.

    Once they supply and fit the engine the 1 month warranty is irrelevant as the sale of goods and supply of services act trumps a warranty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    Thanks all for the posts. I think they are just going to pay the 1600 to get it back on the road and sell it later in the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    .....look at it this way: if you were to buy a brand new Astra on HP would cost you €454 p.m.

    So, if you repair your car for €1600, then so long as it lasts at least 3.5 months, you're actually even-steven, moneywise.

    Pouring money into it and then selling it is the mistake. Dump it now or fix it & use it (a.k.a., get value from your repair money).

    Lets say the replacement engine last a year - that means the car cost you €133/month.

    That's cheap motoring.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭grogi


    galwaytt wrote: »
    .....look at it this way: if you were to buy a brand new Astra on HP would cost you €454 p.m.

    So, if you repair your car for €1600, then so long as it lasts at least 3.5 months, you're actually even-steven, moneywise.

    Except a brand new car is more economical, safer and more pleasant...
    Pouring money into it and then selling it is the mistake. Dump it now or fix it & use it (a.k.a., get value from your repair money).

    Why would it be a mistake?

    One would get close to zero for an Astra without an engine. You'd easily get 3k for one with working engine - that's a 1.4k profit on 1.6k investment.


    If one doesn't have confidence in a car, it is a very prudent decision to sell it when it is still worth some money.
    Lets say the replacement engine last a year - that means the car cost you €133/month.

    No, it doesn't.

    It doesn't matter how much the repair costs, what matters is how much the car is worth afterwards. If you can sell it for €3k now and €0 in a year, the car costed you €3k.


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