Ideal car for daughter

Millionaire only not

What could people recommend for first car on handy budget of say 6/7 grand for my daughter to start off in

johndaman66

I'm a fan of Toyota's myself. Generally reliable and easy to run once properly maintained and looked after. These few look decent respectable cars and shouldn't be too bad insurance wise for a first time driver;

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-yaris-2012-petrol-1-3-litre-hatchback/21503668
Yaris 1.3 litre petrol 2012, Low mileage at 27,000 and tested up until December, 2020. Asking €6,950.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-auris-2012-5dr-1-4-d4d-diesel-nctd-21/21497423
2012 Auris 1.4 litre diesel, 89,000 and full service history. Tested until May, 2021. On at €6,999.

sdanseo

I started in a Corsa and the thing ran for >3 years and 60k miles without even an oil change (I was 20 and preventative maintenance was an alien concept).

Can't go wrong with a Polo either.

Petrol for anything less than 20k miles / 30k km per year is more economical, the fuss and extra things that can go expensively wrong on Diesel are not worth the trade off unless you are doing serious mileage.

dar_cool

Like above poster says. Stick to Toyota. 3 cylinder polos are not a good engine

punisher5112

It's all to do with insurance also by the way ...

Yaris are a great starter or look at likes of Kia or Hyundai or even likes of Renault Clio or Mégane.

Smaller the engine usually means better price but also the year makes a huge difference where older is much more expensive.

Millionaire only not

Thks guys

Deja Boo

Can't go wrong with a Toyota - ideal and most reliable.

Blue850

Fiat 500 1.2 petrol

khaldrogo

Kia Picanto
Kia Rio
Hyundai i20
Mazda 2
Ford Fiesta

Patser

You might just stretch to a Renault Zoe on import - electric so cheap to run, no gearbox to mangle, very easy to drive for 1st timer

run_Forrest_run

What about the VW Up!

https://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/Volkswagen/Up-UP-TAKE-UP-1.0-5Dr-Sat-Nav/201905178044185

Dont be at yourself

Blue850 wrote: »

Fiat 500 1.2 petrol

This

corks finest

Millionaire only not wrote: »

What could people recommend for first car on handy budget of say 6/7 grand for my daughter to start off in

Honda fit/ jazz hybrid,eco, automatic/roomy,dependable

Water John

Daughter here started on a Yaris, son on a Corolla both lasted years, no problems.

CiniO

I would recommend anything that isn't a tiny deathtrap like most cars listed above.

It it's a first car for your daughter I take she is not an experienced driver, and therefore her chances of being involved in an accident are higher than average.
Because of that it would be nice if she was driving something which will be safe - so something big enough and equipped with ESP (or other name of system responsible for preventing skids).

Something focus, astra, civic size should be minimum IMO.
Ideally something like Mondeo, Insignia, Accord...

pablo128

Be aware if she gets an electric car or hybrid and does her test in it, she will only be licenced to drive an automatic.

gooner99

What about a 1.4 02-07 era corolla. Reliable,
nice to drive, well built and there should be quite a few available. Hatch nicely styled especially in higher specs. I'd say later models should be well equipped with airbags. Only issue may be insurance in her own name?

listermint

CiniO wrote: »

I would recommend anything that isn't a tiny deathtrap like most cars listed above.

It it's a first car for your daughter I take she is not an experienced driver, and therefore her chances of being involved in an accident are higher than average.
Because of that it would be nice if she was driving something which will be safe - so something big enough and equipped with ESP (or other name of system responsible for preventing skids).

Something focus, astra, civic size should be minimum IMO.
Ideally something like Mondeo, Insignia, Accord...

An auris and a Zoe are death traps


What nonsense is this.

And how is a first time driver going to far on you stupid ideas of a Mondeo and accord.

Jaysus read the opening post

listermint

pablo128 wrote: »

Be aware if she gets an electric car or hybrid and does her test in it, she will only be licenced to drive an automatic.

I've yet to hear this being enforced but yes that is factual

johndaman66

listermint wrote: »

An auris and a Zoe are death traps


What nonsense is this.

Agreed. They may not be as safe as larger cars but to say they are death traps is just incorrect. Of course it depends on the specific model too.

listermint wrote: »

And how is a first time driver going to far on you stupid ideas of a Mondeo and accord.

Jaysus read the opening post

Generally speaking insurance most likely a no go for a first time driver in the likes of an Accord or Mondeo or would be prohibitively expensive. Possibly if they were named it might be more realistic a proposition but then they shouldn't be the main driver of the car and I don't think that's the objective here.
Also I've found that inexperienced drivers might be very daunted by a car the dimensions of a Mondeo or Accord and women in particular - even some experienced women drivers - that is not intended to be a sweeping statement, just my very real experience.

bri007

Ford Fiesta is good car to start off in, or as mentioned above a Toyota is reliable ie auris and Yaris

CiniO

listermint wrote: »

An auris and a Zoe are death traps


What nonsense is this.

And how is a first time driver going to far on you stupid ideas of a Mondeo and accord.

Jaysus read the opening post

I didn't particularly mean Auris.
Most proposals the thread were tiny cars though like Yaris, Polo, Corsa, Fiat 500, I20, Kia Picanto, Mazda2, Fiesta, etc...

I wouldn't like to have my daughter driving one of those.

Renault Zoe is not the biggest either - not sure about weight.

And tbh it's all about weight.
If your car collides with another car which is twice as heavy, then consequences for occupants of smaller car will be way more severe.

In example simple scenario two cars driving at 50km/h each collide head on.
One car is a tiny sh1tbox weighting 1 tonne, while other is a big SUV weighting 2 tonnes.
In short, consequences of a crash will be comparable to smaller car hitting the wall at 66km/h while bigger car hitting the wall at 33km/h.
Hence that collision at 66km/h attracts absorption of 4 times the kinetic energy as collision at 33km/h. So in short people in smaller car might be affected 4 times harder than those in big one. It might be a difference between small scratch on your wrist, and being dead.

Of course every accident is different, and simple physics like above can't give exact result, but just gives general idea.

There's not a hope that any of my children while they start driving will be allowed by me to have a tiny sh1tbox car.
The bigger the better.

Water John

They have developed the test to check your theory, NCAP, and you are incorrect. You'll more likely get hurt in an old car that hasn't shock absorbtion built into its structure.

Turbohymac

Small Toyota or vw would be tops for reliability and safety.. lots people still think opel is the best ever but there now the 21st century lada.. corsa has engine water leaks..steering rack faults etc loads of small but very annoying things..and I won't even start on engine faults with astral and insignia..
People will recommend lots of other middle of the road cars that will also suit perfectly..

CiniO

Water John wrote: »

They have developed the test to check your theory, NCAP, and you are incorrect. You'll more likely get hurt in an old car that hasn't shock absorbtion built into its structure.

NCAP tests collisions with stationary object.
And yes - I agree I definitely would prefer to be in brand new Kia Picanto than mid 90s Carina when hitting the wall.

But that's not what I was talking about.
It's the small weight of a small car, which makes it extremely vulnerable in collision with heavier car.

Whocare

Fiat 500 abarth . there's plenty of nice one in cargiant in UK if you was thinking of importing one