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MRI for 3 year old

  • 08-05-2019 8:26pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭


    My 3 year old has been referred for an MRI, he will need to be knocked out for it. I rang Crumlin who said its a 24month wait. Public/ private its the same wait list. Any one know anywhere private in Ireland that will do an MRI on a child with anaesthetic? Anywhere so far ive tried does not offer MRIs for children who need sedation .Willing to travel north/ south for this.
    Thanks


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    2 yr wait for a MRI Jesus Christ , I'd get a loan, sell a car find somewhere abroad rather than wait 2yrs.


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,978 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    Have you tried the Beacon? I've never had one of my kids there for an MRI, but my son has been there for a couple of procedures and I've always found them really good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭hairyprincess


    This place does MRI’s in a few different locations. I don’t know if they do them on kids but it would be worth giving them a call.

    https://www.affidea.ie/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭polydactyl


    No where is the answer I’m afraid. The Paeds anaesthetic consultants don’t tend to do private scans. The problem is lack of consultants (who are not off doing private) they have advertised for over a year for 2 new posts in temple st and Crumlin and got no one as the pay difference for any consultant employed after Oct 2012v pre Oct 2012 for the Exact same job is 50% so no one is taking the posts hence the huge waiting lists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭jimmers23


    Its a joke. I nearly cried. I have sent emails to some UK hospitals and have some generally positive feedback. A Birmingham hospital replied so far giving an 8 week waiting period. I will follow up with his consultant tomorrow regarding the referral letters needed.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Apparently there are only two places that do them on younger kids, it's the sedation that's the issue.We have so many problems in our health system, beggars belief.Hopefully you find somewhere soon OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 willyou


    The Bon Secours in cork do MRI for children under sedation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭Sunrise_Sunset


    My 3 year old needs one too. From the time I was told they'd need it, until the date of the actual app is 13 months. Tallaght hospital.

    Our Consultant told us, to get it done quicker, sometimes they'll bring the kid in as an inpatient for a couple of days. That way they'll do it quicker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭jimmers23


    I will get in touch with bon secours in cork tomorrow and get consultant to make a referral. Thanks everyone, you have been a great help. Pity the health system is such a mess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Bitches Be Trypsin


    Get it done without a GA? Strong sedative should be enough really!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭jimmers23


    That would be ideal, he has a developmental delay, so will go with whatever they recommend. Delighted there is an option in Ireland other than waiting 24 months for Crumlin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭Beanybabog


    Can’t help with the info of where, but just make sure the information you’ve been given regarding the GA is right. My son had a CT scan (I know it’s different from an MRI, he had one of those too and was supposed to have sedation but I can’t recall if he did, he was so small he might have slept). But for the CT I got a letter that he had to fast and be sedated and I was in a knot about how to fast a breastfed baby etc. Until I mentioned it to a friend who works in crumlin and said it’s not their policy and so I called temple street and turned out the letters are just issued, no one had updated them! I was in knots worried about fasting and sedation and neither were required


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭jimmers23


    Great, thanks for the tip.. I'll make sure to mention it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭foodaholic


    I think the beacon will do this
    They have a paediatric section


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭jimmers23


    Afraid The Beacon don't provide this service, I rang them today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Might a two year wait be allowable on the Treatment Abroad Scheme?

    https://www2.hse.ie/services/treatment-abroad-scheme/treatment-abroad-scheme.html


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    polydactyl wrote: »
    No where is the answer I’m afraid. The Paeds anaesthetic consultants don’t tend to do private scans. The problem is lack of consultants (who are not off doing private) they have advertised for over a year for 2 new posts in temple st and Crumlin and got no one as the pay difference for any consultant employed after Oct 2012v pre Oct 2012 for the Exact same job is 50% so no one is taking the posts hence the huge waiting lists.

    Absolutely disgraceful for all of us. And a slight feeling of being conned for those of us who pay extra for health insurance that says it covers MRIs for kids. I'm very surprised given I, an adult, got an MRI within a day on the private health insurance so I assumed it would be a similar service for kids if they had the same health insurance policy as their parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭jimmers23


    I know it's kind of hard to believe..I had a busy day Friday and by the time I got to ring the office was closed. I'll get on to it tomorrow and update ye. thank you all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭jimmers23


    Rang Dr. Lynch's office in Cork. They confirmed that MRI's for our particular needs would only take place under the sane public/private system in Dublin. Will have to look into Uk in more detail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,626 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    I know this is no good to you, but a lady in my sons class brought her son to Poland for one. (She's Polish) She was waiting on a number of appointments so she got them all done there and for the referrals translated for here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭jimmers23


    Great thank you for that. Absolutely ridiculous in 2019.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    It's the sedation.Health Insurance may cover kids MRIs but if you look at fine print it will most likely be age 7 and over, as with most private companies.Look in NI or the UK.It is infuriating, but it's not the MRI exactly that's the issue, its the sedation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭jimmers23


    Yes that seems to be the issue. Just have to look at other avenues now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I had my little one's mri last year in tallaght that was with a 26 month wait ,the lady who did the MRI said they more or less only do MRIs for public list patients one or two days a week ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭jimmers23


    Gatling I hope the MRI went well. I know its not an emergency but I'm not happy waiting a very long time. Just would rather get it done sooner than later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭Sunrise_Sunset


    jimmers23 wrote: »
    Rang Dr. Lynch's office in Cork. They confirmed that MRI's for our particular needs would only take place under the sane public/private system in Dublin. Will have to look into Uk in more detail

    What does the child need the MRI for? Or what is the suspected illness associated with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭jimmers23


    Possible form of cerebral palsy as a cause of a developmental delay. All genetic blood tests and screenings have not yielded any answers. Consultant feels this is the next step


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭Sunrise_Sunset


    jimmers23 wrote: »
    Possible form of cerebral palsy as a cause of a developmental delay. All genetic blood tests and screenings have not yielded any answers. Consultant feels this is the next step

    I see. So an MRI of the brain?
    My child is awaiting one of the abdomen.
    Did you try Tallaght hospital? My child's total waiting time there is 13 months. Only another 9 months to wait now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Gemma1982


    I’m not much help to you - can only send sympathy. We were also told wait in crumlin for a brain mri would be two years but it ended up be a 15month so not quite as bad as advised. The one good thing about the wait is that apparently a brain mri at around age two is more informative than an earlier one when it comes to assessing developmental delay. The worry during the wait is very tough though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭Beanybabog


    jimmers23 wrote: »
    Possible form of cerebral palsy as a cause of a developmental delay. All genetic blood tests and screenings have not yielded any answers. Consultant feels this is the next step


    Am I right in saying the MRI would just lead to a diagnosis? Treatment such as physio wouldn’t change? I was told regardless of the MRI it’s the development that’s important, and different consultants gave different opinions to how valuable they’re are.

    God reading this thread I’m shocked, when my son had his we were told we might have to wait over the weekend for the MRI but got it done straight away (day 2 of hospital admission). I was told they were busy but had no idea how busy and I was lucky to get it done (he was very ill).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭fits


    jimmers23 wrote: »
    Possible form of cerebral palsy as a cause of a developmental delay. All genetic blood tests and screenings have not yielded any answers. Consultant feels this is the next step

    Has whole exome sequencing been mentioned?

    I've been in similar position with my 2.5 year old, but we were 'lucky' to get a diagnosis quite early. He has a large head size so MRI probably would have been next step for us too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭jimmers23


    Beanybabog wrote: »
    jimmers23 wrote: »
    Possible form of cerebral palsy as a cause of a developmental delay. All genetic blood tests and screenings have not yielded any answers. Consultant feels this is the next step


    Am I right in saying the MRI would just lead to a diagnosis? Treatment such as physio wouldn’t change? I was told regardless of the MRI it’s the development that’s important, and different consultants gave different opinions to how valuable they’re are.

    God reading this thread I’m shocked, when my son had his we were told we might have to wait over the weekend for the MRI but got it done straight away (day 2 of hospital admission). I was told they were busy but had no idea how busy and I was lucky to get it done (he was very ill).
    Yes you are right, nothing will change but a diagnosis would be made.. the MRI wait is so long because it's not an emergency situation..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭jimmers23


    fits wrote: »
    jimmers23 wrote: »
    Possible form of cerebral palsy as a cause of a developmental delay. All genetic blood tests and screenings have not yielded any answers. Consultant feels this is the next step

    Has whole exome sequencing been mentioned?

    I've been in similar position with my 2.5 year old, but we were 'lucky' to get a diagnosis quite early. He has a large head size so MRI probably would have been next step for us too.
    No whole exome sequencing has not been mentioned. Did your 2.5 year old have it done??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭fits


    No but i was going to ask about it. A lot of the rarer chromosomal issues are identified that way apparently.

    Im happy to pm you about it. Dont want to put too much information on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭fbradyirl


    Did anyone here have any success in the end? Can you recommend any place either in Ireland or abroad that you ended up getting the child MRI done? Thank you.



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