Sds hammer/demolition drill

e220

Hello All,
Please advise where possible. I need a Sds hammer/demolition hammer drill for a diy type project and am looking for recommendations for what to invest in at a reasonable price. There will be some demolition work involved but nothing too serious. Also drilling through concrete. Not too bothered whether corded or battery powered as long as it can help get the job done. A good reliable preused one could be perfect. I don't want something so cheap it would 'die' under a bit of pressure. Please help if you have had experience around what I need. Thanks.

jeepcj

I have a einhel corded sds drill i got from mcquillans years ago, its a excellent strong drill, demolition hammer and costs around 100 euro

Purgative

I've had one of these https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-2100-Rotary-Hammer-Drill/dp/B006P06Z9Y/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?crid=2HZNDFU1WLCVS&keywords=bosch+sds+drill&qid=1557171644&s=gateway&sprefix=bosch+sds%2Caps%2C226&sr=8-4-spons&psc=1 for must be 10 or so years.


Its still going strong but when we took out the fireplace I hired one. Job done in a day (bar the clear up) 50 squids.

christy c

Purgative wrote: »

I've had one of these https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-2100-Rotary-Hammer-Drill/dp/B006P06Z9Y/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?crid=2HZNDFU1WLCVS&keywords=bosch+sds+drill&qid=1557171644&s=gateway&sprefix=bosch+sds%2Caps%2C226&sr=8-4-spons&psc=1 for must be 10 or so years.


Its still going strong but when we took out the fireplace I hired one. Job done in a day (bar the clear up) 50 squids.

Didn't think it was worth starting a new thread for this. I'm looking at getting the drill quoted above but the more I read the more confused I get.

The above is SDS, right? Wanted to go for a SDS to make drilling walls/concrete easier. Question is can I get SDS drill bits for metal/wood or do I need to buy the adaptor? I am starting from scratch so don't have any old bits that will go to waste if I buy a SDS drill.

If there are wood/metal drill bits available, would someone mind posting a link to suitable bits? Thanks

my3cents

christy c wrote: »

Didn't think it was worth starting a new thread for this. I'm looking at getting the drill quoted above but the more I read the more confused I get.

The above is SDS, right? Wanted to go for a SDS to make drilling walls/concrete easier. Question is can I get SDS drill bits for metal/wood or do I need to buy the adaptor? I am starting from scratch so don't have any old bits that will go to waste if I buy a SDS drill.

If there are wood/metal drill bits available, would someone mind posting a link to suitable bits? Thanks

Just get and SDS drill for hammer drilling in brick, masonry and concrete. Thats what they are made for. The adaptors are OK but I' don't use mine at all as it makes the whole drill so unwieldy to use.

Get an ordinary battery/drill driver for drilling wood and metal and an impact driver if you are putting in a lot of screws.

christy c

my3cents wrote: »

Just get and SDS drill for hammer drilling in brick, masonry and concrete. Thats what they are made for. The adaptors are OK but I' don't use mine at all as it makes the whole drill so unwieldy to use.

Get an ordinary battery/drill driver for drilling wood and metal and an impact driver if you are putting in a lot of screws.

Thanks.

Right, so the SDS for brick/concrete only. Was hoping one drill might do me as it'll probably be in it's case 364 days of the year after initial use.

my3cents

christy c wrote: »

Thanks.

Right, so the SDS for brick/concrete only. Was hoping one drill might do me as it'll probably be in it's case 364 days of the year after initial use.

Thats often the way, but its not a lot of money, if you don't mind a corded drill then you'll find you can get a fairly decent one quite cheaply.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-UniversalImpact-700-Hammer-Drill/dp/B072NY6CSZ/ would do a lot of drilling including some masonary. The hammer action won't have much of an impact on decent concrete but will drill through red brick, cement and a lot of concrete blocks. Not a drill for driving screws.

K.Flyer

Some SDS units have a quick release chuck for swapping between the two different chucks for using standard bits and sds bits, which is so much easier and tidier than the adaptor.
So I would suggest looking for a unit that comes with the two detachable chucks, e.g Milwaukee



Another thread on drills.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057984259

my3cents

K.Flyer wrote: »

Some SDS units have a quick release chuck for swapping between the two different chucks for using standard bits and sds bits, which is so much easier and tidier than the adaptor.
So I would suggest looking for a unit that comes with the two detachable chucks, e.g Milwaukee



Another thread on drills.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057984259

You only get that feature on top end drills and christy c is looking at spending £75. I really don't think your suggestion meets the reality of the request.

listermint

my3cents wrote: »

You only get that feature on top end drills and christy c is looking at spending £75. I really don't think your suggestion meets the reality of the request.

Nor will the holes in timber be neat from this type of drill with that type of adapter

K.Flyer

my3cents wrote: »

You only get that feature on top end drills and christy c is looking at spending £75. I really don't think your suggestion meets the reality of the request.

It was only a suggestion for them to consider the stability of the swapped chuck over the instability of those adaptors given that they want to drill masonry, wood and steel.
I haven't had to buy a drill in over 10 years, I am sure the feature might be available on more reasonably priced units.

mfceiling

You can buy an sds chuck that will take normal drill bits. They are about 25 quid.

Calahonda52

mfceiling wrote: »

You can buy an sds chuck that will take normal drill bits. They are about 25 quid.

I agree, it really depends on the quality of the non sds work he needs to do

christy c

Calahonda52 wrote: »

I agree, it really depends on the quality of the non sds work he needs to do

Seen as I'll be doing the work, the quality won't be great!

So I can buy a chuck for the Bosch SDS drill referred to earlier?

K.Flyer

christy c wrote: »

Seen as I'll be doing the work, the quality won't be great!

So I can buy a chuck for the Bosch SDS drill referred to earlier?

Yes, its an adaptor chuck that goes into the sds chuck.

my3cents

K.Flyer wrote: »

Yes, its an adaptor chuck that goes into the sds chuck.

Have you actually tried using one?

Its a messy solution. I use one as a get out of jail card with some really large old bits I have but even then it was unwieldy. Try it with small bits for pilot holes and the extra 4-5 inches it adds to the length of the drill makes it a pain.

Anyway as you can guess its not a solution I like or would advise for a DIYer.

I'd suggest a decent percussion drill and sweat over the occasional hole that needs to be drilled in masonry.

christy c

my3cents wrote: »

Have you actually tried using one?

Its a messy solution. I use one as a get out of jail card with some really large old bits I have but even then it was unwieldy. Try it with small bits for pilot holes and the extra 4-5 inches it adds to the length of the drill makes it a pain.

Anyway as you can guess its not a solution I like or would advise for a DIYer.

I'd suggest a decent percussion drill and sweat over the occasional hole that needs to be drilled in masonry.

Thanks for all the replies.

Thinking of getting the original Bosch quoted, plus another cordless for screws/other drilling- have spent it on worse sh1t. Will that keep everyone happy?

my3cents

christy c wrote: »

Thanks for all the replies.

Thinking of getting the original Bosch quoted, plus another cordless for screws/other drilling- have spent it on worse sh1t. Will that keep everyone happy?

You never said what you needed to drill?

But for general purpose DIY use that covers a good few bases.

K.Flyer

my3cents wrote: »

Have you actually tried using one?

Yes, many years ago using a mates drill and it was a horrible set up.

my3cents wrote: »

Anyway as you can guess its not a solution I like or would advise for a DIYer.

I'd suggest a decent percussion drill and sweat over the occasional hole that needs to be drilled in masonry.

I wouldn't either, hence my previous suggestion.
It really comes down to what the main use would be for the user.
If its predominantly masonry, it would be better going for sds, if not, then a cheap percussion drill will cover most diy tasks.

christy c

my3cents wrote: »

You never said what you needed to drill?

But for general purpose DIY use that covers a good few bases.

A few things at the moment- pictures, curtains inside. Hanging baskets outside on house and on precast fence. The wood/metal is mainly future proofing, but hope to put in an attic stairs soon and probably some fencing.

listermint

christy c wrote: »

A few things at the moment- pictures, curtains inside. Hanging baskets outside on house and on precast fence. The wood/metal is mainly future proofing, but hope to put in an attic stairs soon and probably some fencing.

If your doing all that then yes get the right tools.

Correct tools allow jobs to be finished and not stopped halfway through with you banging your head off a wall wondering why something looks ****