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Pizza oven tripping

  • 05-05-2019 7:07pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭


    In the kitchen there are 3 x double sockets all about 1m apart. Not certain but I presume they are all on the same circuit. When I plug in a pizza oven it trips on the fuseboard what seems to be the 'main' trip switch in that it has a small red light beside it whereas the others don't. Beneath the trip switch the sparks has written RCD. The trip depowers the tv in the living room but not the lights.

    Anyway I re-wired the plug with a new one in the hope that would fix it. But it didn't so it is not the fuse in the plug. I plugged everything out of all the kitchen sockets and then tried again but it tripped again. The pizza oven is rated up to 400 degrees C and draws 1,200 watts. The airfryer draws 1,400w and works with no problems or tripping. Any ideas of what the problem could be? Socket related or more likely the pizza oven itself? This is the oven https://www.amazon.co.uk/Giles-Posner-EK2309-Italian-Stone/dp/B01M1HUCOD


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭kramer1


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    In the kitchen there are 3 x double sockets all about 1m apart. Not certain but I presume they are all on the same circuit. When I plug in a pizza oven it trips on the fuseboard what seems to be the 'main' trip switch in that it has a small red light beside it whereas the others don't. Beneath the trip switch the sparks has written RCD. The trip depowers the tv in the living room but not the lights.

    Anyway I re-wired the plug with a new one in the hope that would fix it. But it didn't so it is not the fuse in the plug. I plugged everything out of all the kitchen sockets and then tried again but it tripped again. The pizza oven is rated up to 400 degrees C and draws 1,200 watts. The airfryer draws 1,400w and works with no problems or tripping. Any ideas of what the problem could be? Socket related or more likely the pizza oven itself? This is the oven https://www.amazon.co.uk/Giles-Posner-EK2309-Italian-Stone/dp/B01M1HUCOD

    Sounds like a problem with the pizza oven , plug it into a socket on a different circuit and see if the issue persists


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Thanks kramer1, will do that when Im back home tomorrow and report back


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    May not be relevant, but we had a problem a while back with a table top raclette unit (a sort of mini grill) that had worked for years with no problem, and when we contacted a local repair shop to try and get a new element, they told us that if it hadn't been used for some time, the heater element absorbs moisture, and when used next, it trips the earth leakage protection, and they saw this problem each year, after they'd been out of use for a while.

    The suggested fix, with care, is to operate it without an earth for about 40 minutes to dry it out. The important aspect of this is to make sure that it's on a "safe" surface, and that no one touches it while it is connected in this way. if you've replaced the plug, the quickest way to do this will be to use an extension lead to connect it, and remove the earth connection in the plug that you fitted for the duration of the dry out period.

    The important thing is don't touch the unit at all while it's got no earth connected, so if any switches have to be set, or thermostats set, do all of that before connecting it to the power.

    At the end of the time, disconnect the extension lead, reconnect the earth and test it again. If it still trips the breaker after this procedure, then there is a fault on the unit that will need looking at in more depth, the most likely is the heating element, which may not be readily available at a reasonable price as a spare part

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Does it trip as soon as its plugged in/switched on?

    Does it trip when the stat is turned down so it has the heat off, and breaker reset?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭alan4cult


    May not be relevant, but we had a problem a while back with a table top raclette unit (a sort of mini grill) that had worked for years with no problem, and when we contacted a local repair shop to try and get a new element, they told us that if it hadn't been used for some time, the heater element absorbs moisture, and when used next, it trips the earth leakage protection, and they saw this problem each year, after they'd been out of use for a while.

    The suggested fix, with care, is to operate it without an earth for about 40 minutes to dry it out. The important aspect of this is to make sure that it's on a "safe" surface, and that no one touches it while it is connected in this way. if you've replaced the plug, the quickest way to do this will be to use an extension lead to connect it, and remove the earth connection in the plug that you fitted for the duration of the dry out period.

    The important thing is don't touch the unit at all while it's got no earth connected, so if any switches have to be set, or thermostats set, do all of that before connecting it to the power.

    At the end of the time, disconnect the extension lead, reconnect the earth and test it again. If it still trips the breaker after this procedure, then there is a fault on the unit that will need looking at in more depth, the most likely is the heating element, which may not be readily available at a reasonable price as a spare part

    No offence but this sounds like a dangerous idea. What about other circuits in the house that could have a neutral that now has a voltage to earth because an RCD has effectively been bypassed?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    alan4cult wrote: »
    No offence but this sounds like a dangerous idea. What about other circuits in the house that could have a neutral that now has a voltage to earth because an RCD has effectively been bypassed?

    The rcd will still work as normal if an appliance has it's internal earth disconnected. It is not bypassing the rcd for other circuits or appliances.
    Your post seems confused as to how rcds work. You are not alone here though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    May not be relevant, but we had a problem a while back with a table top raclette unit (a sort of mini grill) that had worked for years with no problem, and when we contacted a local repair shop to try and get a new element, they told us that if it hadn't been used for some time, the heater element absorbs moisture, and when used next, it trips the earth leakage protection, and they saw this problem each year, after they'd been out of use for a while.

    Thanks Steve, this completely makes sense as it was unused for around 6 months. And looking back now where it was stored is a damp enough room so your explanation makes a lot of sense.
    Bruthal wrote: »
    Does it trip as soon as its plugged in/switched on?

    Does it trip when the stat is turned down so it has the heat off, and breaker reset?

    Last Friday in the kitchen It tripped within about 5-6 seconds, the red power light comes on and then it is tripped off quickly enough. I have just tested it now upstairs on a different circuit in the bedroom and it tripped within about 8-9 seconds

    As for the stat it has a 0-5 position with 5 being the hottest. Ive always had it set to 5 and then just plug it in. Ive just tested it there a minute ago in the kitchen with the stat set to 0, plugged in and turned it up to 2 and it tripped again within about 3 seconds.


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