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Is there an official/unofficial ban on Michael Jackson's music?

  • 02-05-2019 11:58pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭


    Just wondering, as I haven't heard a song of his played on any station in god knows how long.

    I appreciate his music mightn't be played that often anyway, but I would definitely heard it on national and local radio the odd time. But no longer.

    I know some will say his music should never be played again, but I am tempted to phone my local radio with a request to see if they'd play it:D

    I would suspect they wouldn't, for fear of the internet mobs boycotting them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    Make sure to request "Beat it".


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I would suspect they wouldn't, for fear of the internet mobs boycotting them.
    Most radio stations are privately owned, and of course public opinion is a major factor in deciding whether to play music by Michael Jackson, Gary Glitter, etc.

    There's no question of a mob, just of people changing station.

    Even though Jackson's guilt is still debatable, it is sufficiently probable to make listening to his music uncomfortable. I seem to recall Tubridy, as well as some others, saying it wouldn't be played on their shows, and this seems wise/ considerate towards listeners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Heard Human Nature on RTE Gold twice during the week. Glad to see the two liars seem to have retreated...until the next time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 Elmer Jones


    You can enjoy the art without respecting the artist as a person.

    Richard Wagner was a pretty horrible individual and his music was associated with Nazism yet it's not going to stop me enjoying his music. Roman Polanski raped a child yet it's doesn't take away from the brilliance of Rosemary's Baby,Chinatown,The Pianist,The Ninth Gate or The Ghost Writer.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can enjoy the art without respecting the artist as a person.

    Richard Wagner was a pretty horrible individual and his music was associated with Nazism yet it's not going to stop me enjoying his music.
    The Wagner analogy is probably a useful one.

    I'm sure nobody would think it foolish or snowflakeish for there to be -- as there is, in fact -- an aversion in Israel to public performances of Wagner. I'm sure if any of us were strolling around Jerusalem as tourists, and someone had the nerve to broadcast Wagner on a loudspeaker, any one of us would recoil.

    We wouldn't feel panic or anguish -- nobody is that sentimental. THere would just be a deeply uncomfortable, intrusive sense of someone being deliberately nasty, or at best, inconsiderate.

    Given how we know that child sexual abuse has affected many thousands of Irish children -- probably, no family in Ireland is totally immune -- it seems similarly inappropriate to play Jackson's music, although I am not for a moment comparing child abuse to the Nazi's Holocaust. Nevertheless, to trivialise that discomfort is not totally unlike guffawing at the discomfort people might feel towards hearing Wagner over a Jerusalem loudspeaker.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    A lot of music played on radio is current music, with little space for 10 year old music, never mind older music.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    “To Strauss the composer I take off my hat; to Strauss the man I put it back on again.” - Toscanini


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Victor wrote: »
    A lot of music played on radio is current music, with little space for 10 year old music, never mind older music.

    I listen to the radio at work every day and flicking though the stations I would her Jackson's female contemporary Madonna almost daily, on some station.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    I listen to the radio at work every day and flicking though the stations I would her Jackson's female contemporary Madonna almost daily, on some station.
    Madonna has just released music and has an album due.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    I was listening to Sounds of the 80s on BBC Radio 2 a few weeks back ..there was an interview with Louise (From 90s girl band Eternal) who name checked the UK band Five Star as one her 80s favourites.

    She and presenter Gary Davies went on to explain who Five Star were influenced by from the U.S., they were very careful not to mention Michael Jackson and his family!!

    Five Star were clearly the UK equivalent of The Jackson family!!

    So are some stations not even speaking about Michael Jackson in a positive light musically, never mind playing his songs !!!??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Even if people have open minds about whether Jackson abused those two men or not, the furore around the documentary served to remind everyone about what a creep he was. Had his music been played much on the radio before Leaving Neverland came out? I've mostly heard it on "oldies" shows. A lot of stations have changed to playing newer music, so his 80s/90s stuff probably would've fallen off playlists anyway. I'm not sure that many casual radio listeners particularly care about the finer details of the documentary at this stage. It was a 9 day wonder when it aired but I doubt anyone bar the die-hard fan are particularly exercised about it now. I expect that even if there is an unofficial ban, it'll relax in time.

    Madonna's a bit of an anomoly. She has managed to keep her career as a contemporary recording artist going, unlike many other acts from the past 3 decades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,359 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    I happened to turn on to Q102 tonight and it was in the middle of Michael Jackson's Human Nature, which happens to be my favourite song by him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    I happened to turn on to Q102 tonight and it was in the middle of Michael Jackson's Human Nature, which happens to be my favourite song by him.

    Guy was a genius....bit of a whacko (:o) , but a genius still..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭Homer


    Guy was a genius....bit of a whacko (:o) , but a genius still..

    and Fred West was a half decent builder :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    To answer the OP’s question, yes, some stations are removing Michael Jackson‘s music completely or moving into a category that their playout/ automation systems don’t select when generating logs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    I heard Man in the Mirror on Dublin's Sunshine 106.8 this evening.

    On a side note, RTE Gold played R Kelly I believe I can fly, on the live Will Leahy breakfast show this morning, as part of what was Number 1 on this day feature.
    I hadn't heard R Kelly on the radio in a while.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    Classic Hits still play it.

    Then they'd have to. For a station that should be have a scope of tens of thousands of songs from the 60's, 70's 80's and 90's they tend to stick to the same 150 or so tracks, with a regular inclusion of Ed Sheeran and Bruno Mars. They're the best non pirate station out there, but jesus they could be so much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    Classic Hits still play it.

    Then they'd have to. For a station that should be have a scope of tens of thousands of songs from the 60's, 70's 80's and 90's they tend to stick to the same 150 or so tracks, with a regular inclusion of Ed Sheeran and Bruno Mars. They're the best non pirate station out there, but jesus they could be so much better.


    It's not just Classic Hits... For practical reasons, virtually EVERY station does that (limit their playlist to a couple of hundred tracks).


    And yes, of course they're still playing him. They made a point of coming out and saying they'd still be playing him as it was a handy (little) bit of publicity for them at the time. *Unlike* most other stations, his music still fits their musical style.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭johnplayer


    I’ve been taking notice to my own station past few weeks and the fella on 11-1 always played Michael Jackson but haven’t heard any for a while .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    Bard wrote: »
    It's not just Classic Hits... For practical reasons, virtually EVERY station does that (limit their playlist to a couple of hundred tracks).
    .

    Not so. I'm fairly sure 98FM, FM104 and 2FM limit themselves to the same 20 or so songs for a six month cycle.

    And no artists outside of Ariana Grande, Jess Glynn, Ed Sheeran and....christ almighty....Picture This.


    Whatever about the other three, has there ever been anything as bland as Picture This put out.


    Since I did my bi annual car radio re calibration and found a few new pirate dance stations I give legal radio a wide berth save for Freaks on Friday on FM104, Declan Pierce on Today FM, the news and Matt Cooper if there's anything in the news worth discussing. The music is just unlistenable.


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