Dairy: Friend or Foe?

Pacoa

Interesting video here on milk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L76fFuyBeXY

_Brian

About as interesting as a poke with a stick in the eye.

Just another unregulated quack spouting his version of misunderstood nutrition.

Surprise surprise when you go to his website, it’s a shop and he’s selling crap.

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Pacoa wrote: »

Interesting video here on milk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L76fFuyBeXY

Very interesting. Thanks.

Couple of points. I'm not sure Kerrygold butter should be sold and made from cows on indoor diets. The selling point is it's omega 3, vitamin D and caretin qualities from grass.
We're consumers of Kerrygold in this household and it was pale and hard to spread over the winter. Of course from the diets the cows were consuming. It was March I think before it changed to a richer colour and more easily spread. I posted about it on here when it changed.
The U.S. is a large market for Kerrygold butter. Obviously because they've nothing like it themselves.

We're also consumers ourselves in this household of raw milk produced by our own cows. The cows are dried off over the winter. So we have to buy pasteurized homogenized milk in the shop then. But the difference between your own produced raw milk and shop milk is night and day. The shop milk and even certain brands could taste sour compared to your own. Then there's the texture and taste. Completely different.

Another thing I'm trying to do is increase the minerals in our milk as we are the consumers. So from the soil test I noticed the soil was low in boron. And low boron in food is detrimental to health. Increased arthritis pain, etc. So last year and will be this year, applied a small bit of boron in the fertilizer and also I'm going out with some seaweed foliar spray to add some boron that way too and other macro and micro nutrients and help a bit with soil health and hopefully our own.

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Very interesting. Thanks.

Couple of points. I'm not sure Kerrygold butter should be sold and made from cows on indoor diets. The selling point is it's omega 3, vitamin D and caretin qualities from grass.
We're consumers of Kerrygold in this household and it was pale and hard to spread over the winter. Of course from the diets the cows were consuming. It was March I think before it changed to a richer colour and more easily spread. I posted about it on here when it changed.
The U.S. is a large market for Kerrygold butter. Obviously because they've nothing like it themselves.

We're also consumers ourselves in this household of raw milk produced by our own cows. The cows are dried off over the winter. So we have to buy pasteurized homogenized milk in the shop then. But the difference between your own produced raw milk and shop milk is night and day. The shop milk and even certain brands could taste sour compared to your own. Then there's the texture and taste. Completely different.

Another thing I'm trying to do is increase the minerals in our milk as we are the consumers. So from the soil test I noticed the soil was low in boron. And low boron in food is detrimental to health. Increased arthritis pain, etc. So last year and will be this year, applied a small bit of boron in the fertilizer and also I'm going out with some seaweed foliar spray to add some boron that way too and other macro and micro nutrients and help a bit with soil health and hopefully our own.

Be careful though when advocating raw milk to randomers. There is a difference between unpasteurized and homogenized. If you grow up on it then sure you might as well continue using it. I wouldn't be giving it to an outsider though unless you have good insurance......because you'll get some quack who will sue you and try to claim they got X or Y from drinking your raw milk!

Donald Trump

I just clicked on the video. Your man is a bit brown i.e. not North European ancestry. There's probably a good chance (50%) he can't process milk as an adult.

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Donald Trump wrote: »

Be careful though when advocating raw milk to randomers. There is a difference between unpasteurized and homogenized. If you grow up on it then sure you might as well continue using it. I wouldn't be giving it to an outsider though unless you have good insurance......because you'll get some quack who will sue you and try to claim they got X or Y from drinking your raw milk!

I can't see what they'd get.

No brucelloses, TB tested, bacteria tested, cell count tested, thermoduric tested, chlorine tested.

They'd be at the same risk or greater from drinking the well water on the farm.
I may tell anyone that comes here from now on to bring their own flask with tea bags and pick up some milk in the shop if they want a cup of tea and God forbid if I offer them an apple or two.

I know what you're saying but that thinking is gone way too far in this country.

Donald Trump

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I can't see what they'd get.

No brucelloses, TB tested, bacteria tested, cell count tested, thermoduric tested, chlorine tested.

They'd be at the same risk or greater from drinking the well water on the farm.
I may tell anyone that comes here from now on to bring their own flask with tea bags and pick up some milk in the shop if they want a cup of tea and God forbid if I offer them an apple or two.

I know what you're saying but that thinking is gone way too far in this country.

I'm not telling you because I think that they would get sick. I am telling you because you leave yourself open.



Am aware of a relatively local case over 20 years ago where the children of blow ins to an area got "diagnosed" with something (possibly brucellosis related) that can theoretically be spread through raw milk. Reported a neighbouring dairy farmer (whose house the kids would have visited) to the department and also starting telling other people in the area that their kids caught something from the farmers milk.



Farmer wasn't told the reason at the time but the department landed down for a non-regular testing. Heard later on what was being spread around by the family and put two and two together. General consensus is that if he had had any reactors, he'd have been taken to the cleaners by the blow-ins.


Whatever the kids had had, they wouldn't have caught it from the farmer's animals or milk. The blow-in kids had visited his house maybe twice. The family were the types to spend their whole summers away off in France or traveling in India etc. so even if they had anything dodgy, they likely caught it there. The thing was that after it was cleared, their "illness" was never mentioned again so it is actually not certain whether or not they had something. But had the farmer had a reactor, it is likely that he'd have been fucked.

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I'm not telling you because I think that they would get sick. I am telling you because you leave yourself open.



Am aware of a relatively local case over 20 years ago where the children of blow ins to an area got "diagnosed" with something (possibly brucellosis related) that can theoretically be spread through raw milk. Reported a neighbouring dairy farmer (whose house the kids would have visited) to the department and also starting telling other people in the area that their kids caught something from the farmers milk.



Farmer wasn't told the reason at the time but the department landed down for a non-regular testing. Heard later on what was being spread around by the family and put two and two together. General consensus is that if he had had any reactors, he'd have been taken to the cleaners by the blow-ins.


Whatever the kids had had, they wouldn't have caught it from the farmer's animals or milk. The blow-in kids had visited his house maybe twice. The family were the types to spend their whole summers away off in France or traveling in India etc. so even if they had anything dodgy, they likely caught it there. The thing was that after it was cleared, their "illness" was never mentioned again so it is actually not certain whether or not they had something. But had the farmer had a reactor, it is likely that he'd have been fucked.

But sure life is all about chances.

I'm not selling it. And the milk testing regime is light years ahead of twenty years ago.
The same scenario could be if I caught a fish and cooked it and offered it to some visitor on a stayover. I could be liable for that too..

The amount of milk anyone visiting here drinking would be minimal. But then it's a superior product so I wouldn't be wasting it..

Again I know what you're saying and taken on board. But I won't be changing my ways.

And people wonder why we've an infantile farmhouse food industry??