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Tag Heuer
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24-04-2019 10:52am#1
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It's purely down to marketing. Rolex and Tag Heuer are bloody good at marketing their products. In the same way that if you asked 100 people on the street to name a high end audio brand they would probably say Bose. A company who are laughed at in the hifi community but for *most* people is high end and sounds amazing!
I have a nice Monaco that I love and it certainly gets more comments than some of my other more expensive/niche watches?
If you want comments get a €25 retro Casio. Every time I wear it someone says nice watch or "god I used to have one of them when I was younger".
Rolex Explorer, not one comment other then when I try on a watch in a shop and the sales person sees it.
But that's not why I bought it so it doesn't matter.
Funny how the Casio is the one though.
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For the laugh, here's a bit from reddit I read before. "Why we hate Hublot, Panerai and Tag". Now, bare in mind that this is taken from a replica subreddit, but a few lines are funny. I've no idea if any of it is true, we need Wibbs for verification purposes.
HUBLOT
were started relatively recently. that means they have no heritage, and need to prove themselves. the outlandish designs are of course one way to stand out (and it's important to stand out if you don't want to disappear into the ocean of small watch start-ups), but their designs are downright garish and vulgar. they do their best to be make more repulsive-looking watches than invicta, and that's saying something. they're also often HUGE, and there are so many special editions for every possible reason/event that it seems they are really desperate for just one more sale... like a cheap hooker.
on top of that, they used to put simple ETA movements inside their watches. now, lots of companies do this (breitling, TAG, baume&mercier, all swatch group brands of which ETA is one, etc), but hublot charge an exorbitant amount. you pay 10k for a bad-looking steel watch with no heritage and a 200 dollar movement.they have in recent years begun to make their own movements (developed from an ETA but quite highly developed into something unique), and are no longer independent, now belonging to LVMH (like bulgari, chaumet, fred, tag, and zenith. zenith is the only truly respectable name in that list).
overall, they have improved their credibility with their own movement, but their designs are still horrible and cheap-looking, and they still possess no heritage.
PANERAI
are a joke. their story goes as follows: a long time ago, they made marine instruments (like ulysse nardin, for example). nothing wrong with that, but then one fine day they start making watches... except they didn't. they simply re-cased rolex movements inside their own cases, and sold that to the italian military. but... panerai has no real military heritage, as they only ever sold in numbers to mussolini's fascists. so panerai started selling to civilians after the war, but nobody cared, until sylvester stallone, on a shopping spree in italy, decide to buy one. they caught on in hollywood, and became a thing among middle aged men who wanted comically oversized watches. the company then was bought out by richemont (who also own the extremely respected lange, vacheron and JLC brands), and moved to switzerland, cutting all ties with italy.
they then began putting the old hand-winding unitas movement into them, and ETA movements in the automatics. these then sold for astronomical prices, in spite of them having ZERO connection to the old panerai (which already didn't exactly have great heritage), and using cheap-ass movements.
panerai have in recent years made their own in-house movement, but they're still a joke.
TAG HEUER
used to be a well-respected brand called Heuer. the monaco, carrera and autavia are all classics. in the 1980s, they were bought by TAG (techniques d'avantgarde, a company with zero watchmaking experience). TAG began whoring heuer out, making cheap quartz watches (the F1 for example, TAG being a sponsor to the mclaren F1 team and even paying to have their porsche engines branded as TAG units). the designs become more and more garish, and the brand moved downmarket. by the 90s/ early 2000s they're basically hublot/panerai, but at lower price points. swiss watches for aspirational douches, basically. there was always a classically-styled carrera available, so at least they had that going for them. eventually they were bought by LVMH, and the decision was made to move them back to respectability. the garish designs stopped, and even some very technically impressive limited numbers watches were created (carrera pendulum, mikrograph, monaco V4).
however, the cheaper models still used ETA calibers (and their sellita copies). the F1 quartz actually uses a cheap-ass ronda movement, less than 10 bucks on ebay... but the watch costs 800. this is a joke, so what does TAG do? they announce their own in-house movement, back in 2009 if memory serves (or 2008?). much was made of this, and they named it the caliber 1887, after the year heuer was founded. everyone lived happily ever after, and TAG returned to respectability.
that is, until someone found out that this "in-house" caliber 1887 is actually an existing design that TAG simply bought from ... seiko.
now, there is nothing wrong with seiko, they make some awesome watches (especially the grand seikos). but there IS something wrong with trying to pass off a japanese movement that you just bought from seiko as a pure swiss, in-house design. TAG back-pedaled, the CEO gave some interviews in which he says that in-house made is the same as in-house engineered, nobody really believed him, and TAG lost what credibility it had left.
that being said, at the 2000 dollar price point, a carrera does seem to be a good buy. but if i were in a position to buy one now, i'd rather save a bit more and get a slightly used grand seiko.
anyway, that explains the gist of it. nobody NEEDS a watch anymore. it's all just smoke and mirrors, image and heritage. technology and marketing. but some brands are better at this than others. even omega isn't as respected as rolex, and neither are breguet or blancpain. why? another time...0 -
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Quick search on eBay throughs up some F1, Aquaracers, Links and a 2000 for well under €500
Here is a lovely TAG HEUER 1000 Professional 200M in blue on a nice jubillee 0 -
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I grew up watching Formula 1.
Tag Heuer is etched in my mind as the time keeper of Formula 1.
Rightly so, Tag Heuer developed the current transponder based timing system that is now ubiquitous in motorsport.
I loved the Formula 1 line, though they now seem a little small at 37mm, by today's standards.
When I could afford one, I went out and bought a chrono, the CA1211-1.
It is the special edition from the company's final year as official time keeper for Formula 1. It has a carbon fibre dial and case back inscription.
It also has a double fold clasp on the bracelet that allows it to be worn over a wet suit. The resin bezel means that even at 30m depth, the bezel can be operated smoothly without the need for lubrication.
I used it when I got my PADI Open Water Licence in Borneo, and again when doing the Advanced Open Water Licence in the Red Sea.
I love it and will never part with it. It is beaten and worn, but still stands out in terms of quality of construction and finish. It also wears just as well on a nice padded leather band with red stitching.
It has the ETA 261.262 movement, as used by Breitling et al. It gains about a second a month and has a chrono that measures down to 1/100 of a second. I've used it to do lap timing in Mondello.
For me, it is what it is - an iconic design from a true motorsport heritage and great value for money compared to some other brands who cite the most tenuous links.
And as for the haters... Foxtrot Oscar.
Edit to add: I do not own a pair of trainers, Nike or other wise.0 -
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I've 3 pairs of AirMax myself
I've 3 pairs of 97's(black, blue and white), 2 pairs of TN's (black and army green), two pairs of 90's (blue and black), a pair of 95's (black/red). Two pairs of Cortez (White/Black and Black/Grey). Most of these are still in the box, worn once or twice.
The 97's black and blue are my "beaters"
1 pair of Adidas Samba (Navy/White) and 1 pair Samoas (White/Blue) and a pair of Fred Perrys in grey.
The Samba's are in pretty bad shape and the Samoas have never been worn. Fred Perrys are still in the box (I forgot about them until now).2 and a Speedmaster Pro. So, half a skanger?
Close. Need to update your Tag ownership to 1 0 -
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