Abandoned Turnpikes Ireland?

topnotch

Noticed there are two short 1/4 mile (400m) sections of abandoned highway on the N25 just East of the Dunkettle roundabout, near Gaelscoil Ui Drisceoil. I would be interested to hear of any other longer sections of abandoned roadway, around the country.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/M8,+Inchera,+Co.+Cork/@51.9056863,-8.3868289,3a,75y,224.55h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s1NrI095YJRkOdDxveaL4MQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x48449b3ae2d012e9:0xfd9618b6520572ca

It shows up much clearer on Google earth, which now has some excellent full 3D coverage of the Cork City area.

There is of course the very famous example in Pennsylvania below. Makes for a cool distopian filming location for a walking dead / fallout type production.

https://uncoveringpa.com/abandoned-pa-turnpike

Silent Running

Turnpikes? Highway? :P

What's the disused section East of the Dunkettle roundabout? Is it the actual road you're on in the Maps link?

(Not familiar with the area)

EDIT: Sorry, I see it there now, running alongside the choo-choo tracks.

topnotch

No, just north of the railway bridge you can see it behind the barrier.

Markcheese

Wasnt the road through kerry pike village, an old toll road? It's largely straight from shandon Street,

Harry Palmr

Silent Running wrote: »

Turnpikes? Highway? :P

This is why go cross country! Pesky tolls!

veryangryman

I guess thered a small example at east end of athlone bypass near kilmartins. Abandoned since 2008

Deagol

Silent Running wrote: »

Turnpikes? Highway? :P

Yes, turnpikes are another (old) word for Toll roads. For example, part of Ennis town is called Turnpike.

L1011

There are relatively few lengthy sections of permanently bypassed roads, and none of them were turnpikes in either the old or modern sense. The Pennsylvanian road was one - it means toll road, not abandoned road.

I live 5 mins from Dunkettle and I didnt know that was there. Lot af building going on at the moment with the new Dunkettle layout, so it might not be there for long.

swarlb

Deagol wrote: »

Yes, turnpikes are another (old) word for Toll roads. For example, part of Ennis town is called Turnpike.

Never knew that... however, very few, if any, people refer to roads in Ireland as 'turnpikes' or 'highways' in the sense that they are used in other countries. Much in the same way if you started up a conversation in the USA and started talking about 'dual carriage ways' or 'roundabouts' you'd get the same reaction.
Why bastardise our use if language (in this country), when it's much simpler to use words we are familiar with.

Deagol

swarlb wrote: »

Never knew that... however, very few, if any, people refer to roads in Ireland as 'turnpikes' or 'highways' in the sense that they are used in other countries. Much in the same way if you started up a conversation in the USA and started talking about 'dual carriage ways' or 'roundabouts' you'd get the same reaction.
Why bastardise our use if language (in this country), when it's much simpler to use words we are familiar with.

So according to your theory we should rename Highwayman, dualcarriageway men? And Turnpike in Ennis should be renamed to what would you propose to avoid you having to learn something new / historical?

swarlb

Deagol wrote: »

So according to your theory we should rename Highwayman, dualcarriageway men? And Turnpike in Ennis should be renamed to what would you propose to avoid you having to learn something new / historical?

Did I say I had a theory ?? The title of the thread is 'Abandoned Turnpikes Ireland'.
I simply mean we should use the words and phrases associated with this particular country. We may have a Turnpike in Ennis, there is also a Turnpike road in Dublin. However we do not generally refer to roads in Ireland as 'turnpikes' or 'highways', in the same way that we don't generally use the term 'trunk' or 'hood' to describe parts on a car.
I think you know quite well what I mean, so lets not labour the subject (or should that be 'labor' ?

Franz Von Peppercorn

Deagol wrote: »

So according to your theory we should rename Highwayman, dualcarriageway men? And Turnpike in Ennis should be renamed to what would you propose to avoid you having to learn something new / historical?

Those words existed in old English but aren’t used now in British or Irish English but are in US English. It makes sense to use the non US version here.

delly

Here's one for you, what formed part of M1 before it was fully finished. I've been meaning to get the drone up sometime to take a better look, but you can see how the old N1 flowed onto the new M1 at the time.

Deagol

swarlb wrote: »

Did I say I had a theory ?? The title of the thread is 'Abandoned Turnpikes Ireland'.
I simply mean we should use the words and phrases associated with this particular country. We may have a Turnpike in Ennis, there is also a Turnpike road in Dublin. However we do not generally refer to roads in Ireland as 'turnpikes' or 'highways', in the same way that we don't generally use the term 'trunk' or 'hood' to describe parts on a car.
I think you know quite well what I mean, so lets not labour the subject (or should that be 'labor' ?

Looking through your other posts I realise now I'm in danger of doing what Mark Twain warned against.

prunudo

I'm a bit confused about what this thread is supposed to be for.

But heres a bit of the old n11 which is now a council yard. Its on the southern section of the Newtownmountkennedy bypass where it went from 2 lanes down to 1.

Dropped pin
Near Newcastle Upper, Rockingham, Co. Wicklow
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Rsw56

redfacedbear

This junction in Ashbourne is known locally at the turnpike as apparently it was the site of a toll when the road was originally built

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5104241,-6.3968191,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1Iel-cEV89o_x2mA2VyZ0Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Charles Babbage

Turnpikes are from the early 18th century, many of these have been abandoned or or used as farm laneways etc. Usually they are pretty straight, but went up hills and were replaced by later wider roads than went around the base of the hill.

There are of course other abandoned sections of more modern roads.

delly

delly wrote: »

Here's one for you, what formed part of M1 before it was fully finished. I've been meaning to get the drone up sometime to take a better look, but you can see how the old N1 flowed onto the new M1 at the time.

Have you got coordinates for that (or the Eircode for the house beside it)? Looks interesting. Couldn't be too far from me. Looks like the house have still got access to it (looks a bit cluttered, perhaps it's in use as a large waste bin?)


Would be a great extension to the garden if you had it haha

JohnC.

Former N24 into Waterford (apparently L3408 now) now ends at a cul-de-sac with some more of the road beyond abandoned.