Removing a rounded wheel nut

fatabit

Hi does anyone have a solution for this kind of wheel nut. I think it was cause by weather exposure but the key skipped instantly on 4 wheel nuts. Any help appreciatated

rex-x

Its a bit hard to see but are those aftermarket aluminium wheels nuts? if so thats why they stripped... An air hammer in the right hands will have them off quickly without damaging the wheels

fatabit

rex-x wrote: »

Its a bit hard to see but are those aftermarket aluminium wheels nuts? if so thats why they stripped... An air hammer in the right hands will have them off quickly without damaging the wheels

Sorry I should of mentioned they are steel wheel nuts.

rex-x

fatabit wrote: »

Sorry I should of mentioned they are steel wheel nuts.

Have you another pic? The colour looks like anodised red and steel cant be anodised hence the suspicion about them being aluminium. Does a magnet stick to them?

Hellrazer

If youre any way handy at welding --weld a 17 or 19 nut on to each rounded nut and then you `ll get them off with a socket.

fatabit

rex-x wrote: »

Have you another pic? The colour looks like anodised red and steel cant be anodised hence the suspicion about them being aluminium. Does a magnet stick to them?

I would have to double check again. I was almost certain they were steel. At least that’s what I was told

rex-x

fatabit wrote: »

I would have to double check again. I was almost certain they were steel. At least that’s what I was told

Worth checking out, I havent seen a steel one strip like that but if they are steel you can weld a nut on as said fairly easily

Del2005

fatabit wrote: »

I would have to double check again. I was almost certain they were steel. At least that’s what I was told

They don't look steel.

A cold chisel and lump hammer will shift it, a hacksaw cut for a bit of purchase if necessary.

dar_cool

Is that not a security lock nut ? I've got a few of them off by hammering on a socket just a little bit smaller than the outside diameter, then remove all of them and throw them in the bin!!

my3cents

That looks like it started out round and surprise surprise is still round. Almost sure its a security nut that needs a special socket that engages on the grooves on the inner surface of the nut.

Here's an example of a security nut https://monasterevinmotors.ie/product/toyota-alloy-wheel-locks/ I'll see if google can find one more like the OP's

The right hand picture on this site looks similar to the OPs set up https://www.brandsport.com/wheel-lock-lug-nut-keys.html . Although it looks like it would need a hollowed out key to fit.

rex-x

my3cents wrote: »

That looks like it started out round and surprise surprise is still round. Almost sure its a security nut that needs a special socket that engages on the grooves on the inner surface of the nut.

Here's an example of a security nut https://monasterevinmotors.ie/product/toyota-alloy-wheel-locks/ I'll see if google can find one more like the OP's

The right hand picture on this site looks similar to the OPs set up https://www.brandsport.com/wheel-lock-lug-nut-keys.html . Although it looks like it would need a hollowed out key to fit.

Its not a security nut its just a normal 'tuner nut' that takes a standard spline

my3cents

rex-x wrote: »

Its not a security nut its just a normal 'tuner nut' that takes a standard spline

Well I'd still call that a security nut.

What concerns me more is the OP's picture shows what looks like the end of the wheel stud so the "security nut" needs a socket that grips on the inside splines of the nut and its also hollow.

If the OP can't find a suitable socket hidden in the car somewhere then best bet is just to get it off by whatever methods necessary and then replace it maybe a big job if there all the nuts are like that.

rex-x

my3cents wrote: »

Well I'd still call that a security nut.

What concerns me more is the OP's picture shows what looks like the end of the wheel stud so the "security nut" needs a socket that grips on the inside splines of the nut and its also hollow.

If the OP can't find a suitable socket hidden in the car somewhere then best bet is just to get it off by whatever methods necessary and then replace it maybe a big job if there all the nuts are like that.

Its normal to be able to see the end of the stud in them, it doesn't interfere with the spline or need a hollow tool

CJhaughey

OP , what depth is there between the rusty round piece in the centre of the nut and the top of the nut?

fatabit

https://www.redpowermotorsport.ie/product/set-of-silver-imbus-lug-nuts-12x125-plus-key/
Okay so the link attached is the wheel nuts on the car. I was informed when buying that they were steel after a few comments I don’t think they are steel. It is a hex key that is used not a spline. Also the wheels are on spacers so I’m not overally concerned about the stud damage. There are I think 4 all together like this all on the rear 3 on one side and 1 on the other.

dodzy

Get a 12 point socket ( not 6) that is a smaller inner diameter to the current lugnut’s outer diameter and beat it onto the offender. Use a small extension bar to avoid damaging the wheel face. You’ll be sacrificing the socket, just to be aware, as you will never remove it. Once off, change them all as they are a sh design.

listermint

Any wheel nut that needs a special key is a lock nut


That's not a wheel nut. Certainly not in the traditional sense

If you rock up to a tyre change place with that car and no key you'll be told to move on.

What tool are you using to remove it . Is the key damaged itself.

askU

A better photo is needed taken at a different angle!

PsychoPete

Had some hassle with those before, I hammered in a hex bit socket a size bigger. It removed some of the rounded nuts but on the others I'd to use a hammer and chisel

case_sensitive

I’d definitely call those security nuts. Curious as to how you don’t have the key?

My security key broke in the nut of one of my Alfa 159s, and it had to have a nut welded to it to extract. Space was super tight so I paid a tyre place to do it

corks finest

They're actually a tool for same - call out your insurance breakdown they'll have one and do it for you,it should do anyway