What did my calf just pass?

morebabies

My 6 week old calf has coccidiosis, seems to be over the worst, but passed something that looks like a long German Frankfurter.
I'm trying to figure out how to add the picture.

Anyone any ideas? She seems fine after it.

Say my name

The lining of her Gut.

Can't say anymore about future developments.

It's actually what sausages are made from. Guts/intestines.

_Brian

morebabies wrote: »

My 6 week old calf has coccidiosis, seems to be over the worst, but passed something that looks like a long German Frankfurter.
I'm trying to figure out how to add the picture.

Anyone any ideas? She seems fine after it.

Yea.. its a dam hard paracite on young stock as it literally shredds the lining of the gut.. Then even when you cure it the animal continues to suffer as they have impared ability to absorb feeding..


It spreads like wildfire, you have to presume any calf in contact with that calf needs treating, and any shed they are in is not contaminated and likely will have ongoing infections following years..

cacs

_Brian wrote: »

Yea.. its a dam hard paracite on young stock as it literally shredds the lining of the gut.. Then even when you cure it the animal continues to suffer as they have impared ability to absorb feeding..


It spreads like wildfire, you have to presume any calf in contact with that calf needs treating, and any shed they are in is not contaminated and likely will have ongoing infections following years..

I have the exact same thing at moment. Treat every calf with vecoxan. Get that calf dried up and hope for the best. It’s damage done to the gut. But the gut can be still fine. It will effect the absorption of nutrients through the gut wall. It will stop thrive for a month or so. Keep an eye on the calf he might pull through he might not.

_Brian

last year we treated every calf that we bought and then again in two weeks.

Worked well.

greysides

morebabies wrote: »

My 6 week old calf has coccidiosis, seems to be over the worst, but passed something that looks like a long German Frankfurter.
I'm trying to figure out how to add the picture.

Anyone any ideas? She seems fine after it.

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I wonder if it was an intususception. In other words, the calf was passing blood due to a twisted gut rather than coccidosis. Those that survive pass the intususception and the remaining ends of gut heal together.

whelan2

Here I was cutting up chorizo reading this thread earlier...

Vote4Napoleon

Our old vet used to maintain after a scour had cleared that the 1st thing to feed the calf was beastings because the sickness cut away the lining of the gut and effectively you're starting from scratch hence the beastings

patsy_mccabe

Every calf here gets Vecoxan. The trouble is I don't know at what age to give it. Read once that 10 days is ideal. Then read that 4 weeks is better. So, I watch everything and once I see a scoury arse and some blood or mucous passed, I do them. If all ok, they still get it at 3 or 4 weeks.

PS - I've had no coccidiosis cases since I started using vecoxan.

dohc turbo2

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Every calf here gets Vecoxan. The trouble is I don't know at what age to give it. Read once that 10 days is ideal. Then read that 4 weeks is better. So, I watch everything and once I see a scoury arse and some blood or mucous passed, I do them. If all ok, they still get it at 3 or 4 weeks.

3-4 weeks we give it

Limestone Cowboy

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Every calf here gets Vecoxan. The trouble is I don't know at what age to give it. Read once that 10 days is ideal. Then read that 4 weeks is better. So, I watch everything and once I see a scoury arse and some blood or mucous passed, I do them. If all ok, they still get it at 3 or 4 weeks.

I give it to every calf when im dehorning them. Luckily enough hasn't been much of an issue for a few years.

Dunedin

Are you not supposed to give two doses of vecoxan, one at 2 weeks and then around 6weeks.

I started giving cevaduril for that reason as it’s only one dose they need.

With either vecoxan or cevaduril, I haven’t had one instance of blood scour and have been doing it about 5 years now. Not cheap but well worth it.

morebabies

I treated them with Vecoxan when I bought them at 3-4 weeks, and covered the sheds in lime, but every year without fail, one will get it. So I should treat them again now with Vecoxan I guess.
Hope the attachment works now, no one would eat a sausage sandwich again after looking at it.

Say my name

Charcoal dust is supposed to be very good against Coccidiosis.

So if ever the drug companies go bust and people are looking for a replacement.
Now ye know.

_Brian

Say my name wrote: »

Charcoal dust is supposed to be very good against Coccidiosis.

So if ever the drug companies go bust and people are looking for a replacement.
Now ye know.

I’ll be disappointed if it doesn’t turn out your selling this stuff.

greysides

morebabies wrote: »

I treated them with Vecoxan when I bought them at 3-4 weeks, and covered the sheds in lime, but every year without fail, one will get it. So I should treat them again now with Vecoxan I guess.
Hope the attachment works now, no one would eat a sausage sandwich again after looking at it.

That's an intusussception almost certainly. It's like no intestinal cast I've ever seen. It's a large one. He's a very fortunate and rare survivor.

morebabies

greysides wrote: »

That's an intusussception almost certainly. It's like no intestinal cast I've ever seen. It's a large one. He's a very fortunate and rare survivor.

Thanks, I've never come across this with other calves I've reared. She'd passed more of the same this morning again but is alert and feeding normally.

_Brian

Any calf that’s had a bad dose like that here gets natural youghert for a few days to help repopulate the gut with bacteria. Often with an egg or two mixed in for extra feed.

morebabies

_Brian wrote: »

Any calf that’s had a bad dose like that here gets natural youghert for a few days to help repopulate the gut with bacteria. Often with an egg or two mixed in for extra feed.

Is it OK to mix the natural yogurt with the milk powder so they drink it, or how do you normally give it to them?

Say my name

_Brian wrote: »

I’ll be disappointed if it doesn’t turn out your selling this stuff.

I'm disappointing you so.

Nope, just a big simple eeget!!

I bet our ancestors knew all this stuff but modern medicine offered so much more and was thus discarded.
It's commercially available for calves in Austria and Germany where they appreciated more the old ways and didn't get carried away on a Sea of Penicillin.

_Brian

morebabies wrote: »

Is it OK to mix the natural yogurt with the milk powder so they drink it, or how do you normally give it to them?

Usually mix it with milk in bottle and feed it that way.