Cost of building a house

realdanbreen

Lets say it's a standard bungalow approx. 1500 sq ft, on a level site within striking distance of builders providers etc. What is the average cost per sq foot?

BryanF

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057572681

fergal85

100e per square ft for builders finish. Around 10k to get planning, another 50k to finish depending on finishes.

arctictree

fergal85 wrote: »

100e per square ft for builders finish. Around 10k to get planning, another 50k to finish depending on finishes.

We spent about 40K to get planning! As far as I can remember:

Architects Fees
Planning Consultant Fees
Traffic/Roads consultant fees
Waste/Drainage consultant
Council Development Contribution
Edit: Legal fees too

We had to apply multiple times too

selfbuild17

arctictree wrote: »

We spent about 40K to get planning! As far as I can remember:

Architects Fees
Planning Consultant Fees
Traffic/Roads consultant fees
Waste/Drainage consultant
Council Development Contribution

We had to apply multiple times too

Ouch. I’d imagine you’re the exception rather than the rule

BorneTobyWilde

I thought it was 65.00 euro to apply for planning.
40k wtf

arctictree

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I thought it was 65.00 euro to apply for planning.
40k wtf

You'd be amazed how the costs pile up.

For example, our dev contribution was 6k. Then we wanted to change a few things and they slapped us with another 4K.

Each consultant survey is about 2k plus VAT and we needed a good few of those to address FI requests.

dubrov

fergal85 wrote: »

100e per square ft for builders finish. Around 10k to get planning, another 50k to finish depending on finishes.

I can't see anyone getting near €100 per sq foot in Dublin these days, even if you manage the build fully yourself.
It sounds like you are quoting pre-2015 prices somewhere in the midlands.

Add into that, water/ESB connection fees, council fees and professional fees after planning. These could add another 30k on top.

BryanF

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I thought it was 65.00 euro to apply for planning.
40k wtf

Have you applied for planning?

Still waters

dubrov wrote: »

I can't see anyone getting near €100 per sq foot in Dublin these days, even if you manage the build fully yourself.
It sounds like you are quoting pre-2015 prices somewhere in the midlands.

Add into that, water/ESB connection fees, council fees and professional fees after planning. These could add another 30k on top.

Prices for builders finish has peaked at 100 a square foot here where I am, builders pricing at more than that aren't getting work and that's coming from a quantity surveyor friend of mine, it's a stagnant market here and no sign of it getting any better

BryanF

Still waters wrote: »

Prices for builders finish has peaked at 100 a square foot here where I am, builders pricing at more than that aren't getting work and that's coming from a quantity surveyor friend of mine, it's a stagnant market here and no sign of it getting any better

Where is ‘here’?

dubrov

Still waters wrote: »

Prices for builders finish has peaked at 100 a square foot here where I am, builders pricing at more than that aren't getting work and that's coming from a quantity surveyor friend of mine, it's a stagnant market here and no sign of it getting any better

Fair enough but the price is heavily dependent on location and there will be many more costs

Council fees
Water Connection
ESB Connection
Architect fees for design, planning, construction and certification.
Engineer fees
QS Fees
BER consultant fees
Soil tests if required
Project manager (if not self managed)
Landscaping/Driveways/Patios
Finishes.
Site Cost plus stamp duty
Mortgage costs during build
Furnishings

Even if you can get a builders finish for €100 per sqf, the final cost is likely to be well in excess of that.

OP. when you are asking someone to quote the build cost, make sure to ask for the all-in cost. People invariably quote the smallest number possible to make it look like they got a deal

realdanbreen

fergal85 wrote: »

100e per square ft for builders finish. Around 10k to get planning, another 50k to finish depending on finishes.

I take it there's VAT @ 23% to add to the €100 per sq ft?

fergal85

Obviusly all depends on house design and prob not in dublin but no 100sq ft is general price. Costs before and after that could be anything

dellas1979

100 per square foot?

What county is this?

Obvs mini boom/demand (or whatever they call this building/renovating and we are short of trades people) hasnt hit where you live.

I just cant get my head around that one could build for 100 a square foot in this climate? Like as said above, VAT would also be added on.

BryanF

fergal85 wrote: »

after that could be anything

I think it’s fair to say that m2 costs aren’t the most accurate way of estimating a build cost.

looksee

I just did some sums and have spent 28k up to planning stage, granted a bit more complex than just a basic house, but still.

Still waters

dellas1979 wrote: »

100 per square foot?

What county is this?

Obvs mini boom/demand (or whatever they call this building/renovating and we are short of trades people) hasnt hit where you live.

I just cant get my head around that one could build for 100 a square foot in this climate? Like as said above, VAT would also be added on.

It's seems to be starting to get a little bit better but I know tradesmen working for 130 cash or 180 plus vat, I've a cousin building houses and pricing at 100 a square foot and more like him, people on here believe everywhere in Ireland is Dublin and prices are the same as Dublin, Dublin is booming, rural Ireland is not

dellas1979

Still waters wrote: »

It's seems to be starting to get a little bit better but I know tradesmen working for 130 cash or 180 plus vat, I've a cousin building houses and pricing at 100 a square foot and more like him, people on here believe everywhere in Ireland is Dublin and prices are the same as Dublin, Dublin is booming, rural Ireland is not

How (or what) is he building for 100 a square foot (assume it includes VAT)?

There is no way (in this country) you could go to a builder finish for 100 square meter with, for example, heat pump/UFH/triple glaze. You might get there if you had a very basic house, self-build, know lots of trades that can help out for minimum pay, that just meets current regs (and nothing wrong with that of course, am just curious).

Am curious what he is including in the builders finish (could just be bricks and double glaze windows, meet minimum regs?).

fergal85

You building at the moment?

fergal85

I am building at the moment and builders finish is coming in at 100sqft. Heat pump/ underfloor heating and triple glazing. Modern designed house by an architect. With beautiful west of ireland views out of my upstairs living area. Do people in dublin even know there a road out of it?

BarryD2

Labour is a big component. Roll up your sleeves, read up on self build and if you put your back into it, you could do it for a small fraction of above. If you keep things reasonably simple design wise, building a bungalow is not rocket science - lots of hard work but entirely practical if you're of the right inclination.

brav

I am building at the moment in the south west, (4 bed bungalow 200 sqm, open plan double height ceiling living area, A2W heating, underfloor, triple gazing etc) and for turnkey finish just under €160 a sqft/€1750 sqm incl VAT.
For builders finish just under €140 sqft/€1500 sqm, incl VAT.

Thats if you go with a contractor doing everything with fixed prices.
Going your own will be cheaper and could get the builders finish closer to the €100 sqft without VAT

Along with what BarryD2 said and to not put off any potential people thinking of self build, our design is probably a little on the expensive side, if we had a more simple design it definitely could be done cheaper so there is set price per sqft you can rely on as it depends on the type of house you want.

dubrov

Those prices sound a little more realistic.

In fairness, when someone asks for the costs of building a house, they are generally looking for the all-in cost.

So €100 per square foot + 50k finishes + 10k planning is really only valid if you are building in the cheaper parts of the country, project manage it yourself and go with a simple design. Even this excludes things like connections and professional fees during the build.

OP, if you want a realistic estimate, hire a local QS. They should be able to give you a fairly high level figure cheaply enough (<300). If you have designs they could give you a detailed estimate for a bit more.
Make sure to ask for the all-in cost though

fergal85

dubrov wrote: »

Those prices sound a little more realistic.

In fairness, when someone asks for the costs of building a house, they are generally looking for the all-in cost.

So €100 per square foot + 50k finishes + 10k planning is really only valid if you are building in the cheaper parts of the country, project manage it yourself and go with a simple design. Even this excludes things like connections and professional fees during the build.

OP, if you want a realistic estimate, hire a local QS. They should be able to give you a fairly high level figure cheaply enough (<300). If you have designs they could give you a detailed estimate for a bit more.
Make sure to ask for the all-in cost though

Of course its impoosible to give a turn key price. Question was about builders finish. Are you building?

dellas1979

fergal85 wrote: »

I am building at the moment and builders finish is coming in at 100sqft. Heat pump/ underfloor heating and triple glazing. Modern designed house by an architect. With beautiful west of ireland views out of my upstairs living area. Do people in dublin even know there a road out of it?

I went with a contractor to a builders finish for a timber frame/passive house. Got 6 tenders.

Not a hope I could build even to a builders finish in the mid-west for 100sq ft.

As said, a self build of course would come in cheaper.

But it looks like (from this thread anyways) that there are big varies on where you build and of course what type of house youre building.

To end, I dunno how you got your site (the road out of Dublin comment), but most people cant get planning due to local need regs or else have to buy a site with planning, which is heavy going on top of a build and fees.

dubrov

fergal85 wrote:

Of course its impoosible to give a turn key price. Question was about builders finish. Are you building?

It's irrelevant if I'm building. I've seem lots of recent prices in Dublin though.

I didn't see any mention of builders finish in the question.

Most people who ask this question about build costs are trying to estimate how much the total build cost will be so they can decide whether it is worth it or not