working time directive

noel100

Hi quick question,

I am FSE had a change in my job last few months.
So started some training, in the UK last week,
I acrued 12.5 hrs of travel to and from the UK.
Placed those hours on my timesheet as time in lieu.
Timesheet was refused as under there employment policy they don't pay or give time in lieu for traveling for training.
I wasn't happy with this.
One health and safety issue came up looking at the directive , I needed 11 hrs rest before starting work the following day. I didnt get home till 2am and was in work for 7am.

Does any one have any information on this as I like to complain to HR and make an issue out of this.

OMM 0000

I think you're being reasonable. HR are being unreasonable.

Can I ask: What does "I am FSE" mean?

noel100

OMM 0000 wrote:

Can I ask: What does "I am FSE" mean?

Field Service Engineer, I get paid to travel job to job. But most of the time I'm on a particular site which I don't get paid to travel for.

OMM 0000

OK. This is my feeling:

If the company are usually nice to you, and if you're usually happy there, and if you'd like to build a career there, and if you don't have a huge amount of job options, I wouldn't make a fuss.

If the company are unreasonable, and you cannot see yourself there in a few years, and you would walk into another job, I would make a fuss.


I like to look at the big picture. Sometimes the "right" decision is to take a hit.

Jim2007

noel100 wrote: »

Hi quick question,

I am FSE had a change in my job last few months.
So started some training, in the UK last week,
I acrued 12.5 hrs of travel to and from the UK.
Placed those hours on my timesheet as time in lieu.
Timesheet was refused as under there employment policy they don't pay or give time in lieu for traveling for training.
I wasn't happy with this.
One health and safety issue came up looking at the directive , I needed 11 hrs rest before starting work the following day. I didnt get home till 2am and was in work for 7am.

Does any one have any information on this as I like to complain to HR and make an issue out of this.

A working day and a half to travel to and from the UK how did you manage that?

Did you know about the policy before you travelled? Did you discuss it with your manager or team lead?

noel100

First I heard of it. I'm working 6yrs with the company. We got 8hrs travel in the past for 20hrs trips to USA for training.
My manager said to me this had been discretionary due to fact journey time was so long. He pulled up a copy of travel policy and showed me an email from HR refusing the time in lieu.
5hrs travel going to UK
7.5hrs travel home due to delay.

OMM 0000

I think the company are in the right here, even though it's obviously a crappy policy.

Are you happy in this company? Are they usually good to you?

noel100

OMM 0000 wrote:

I think the company are in the right here, even though it's obviously a crappy policy.

OMM 0000 wrote:

Are you happy in this company? Are they usually good to you?

No not happy with the decision.
By reading the EU work time directive a serious health and safety issue came up.
I needed 11hrs rest after traveling.
I had 4hrs sleep in bed a 2am and back on the road 6.30am.
But if my travel wasn't classed as work then obviously I didn't qualify for the rest period.

OMM 0000

If they are usually good to you, I'd let this go.

Sometimes you gotta choose your fights, and this sounds like one you're going to lose.