Phone interview tomorrow

Bigmac1euro

Tomorrow I have an interview with a very very well known american company.
The money and perks are excellent.
This will help me achieve my goal of being a homeowner faster and will also give me a much better chance with the bank in getting what I want from them, I know this because I have a friend who works in this company and they even have their own mortgage team which helped him buy a home taking his bonus etc into account.

The problem about the job is I would be taking a step down career wise.
I would no longer have the authority I have now and I am basically moving down a level.

At the moment I am very very happy in my Job but it doesn't pay as well as the potentially new job also my current job offers no perks and no holidays.
But I do love the job itself.

Also the new job - Quite a longer commute of an extra 40 minutes ew per day.


Also during the interview should I mention i'm saving for a house or does that make me look like I'm only moving to the company interviewing me for the money ?

Atlantic Dawn

Don't mention saving for a house.

Bigmac1euro

Another question I have - Based on my experience career wise I should be on the higher scale of the salary they offer.

The salary is 12.5k in difference from the highest to the lowest.
How do I go about getting the most from them salary wise ?
I mean whats a good way to show my worth without coming across cocky and that I'm money hungry ?
Or is it the case these large scale companies take you in on the lower scale ? Not sure how large scale companies work when it comes to deciding salary.

LimeFruitGum

Agree, don’t bring up personal things like wanting a mortgage. It distracts from your pitch of wanting a job in this company because their products are awesome (or whatever it is they do).

I once interviewed a graduate about an entry level role, and she said her motivation for applying for a role with my then employer was that we had an office in Canada and her brother lived in Canada, and maybe she could go and visit him. That killed it for us stone dead. She didn’t have the right experience level for the role anyway, but that just marked her out as immature and too risky for client-facing communications.

LimeFruitGum

Bigmac1euro wrote: »

Another question I have - Based on my experience career wise I should be on the higher scale of the salary they offer.

The salary is 12.5k in difference from the highest to the lowest.
How do I go about getting the most from them salary wise ?
I mean whats a good way to show my worth without coming across cocky and that I'm money hungry ?
Or is it the case these large scale companies take you in on the lower scale ? Not sure how large scale companies work when it comes to deciding salary.

Prepare some strong examples using the STAR method to illustrate how you expertly handled a situation and what the outcome was. Back it up with thing like ‘.. this saved €2000 for the company / improved efficiency by 3 hours a day’, and align the examples to the role’s requirements.

It depends on the company. You can definitely negotiate on the basis of your senior experience, but it might mean there’ll be no scope for payrises if you came in on the upper end of the scale. I was in that situation before.

AndrewJRenko

HR people probably won't want to start you off at the top of the scale. They'll want to leave some room for growth and development. You might be better pitching for the middle or upper third of the scale rather than the top of the scale.

Bigmac1euro

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

HR people probably won't want to start you off at the top of the scale. They'll want to leave some room for growth and development. You might be better pitching for the middle or upper third of the scale rather than the top of the scale.

This is what I've been thinking. Even the middle or middle/upper is still more money than I was on previously but I do think I am worth more than the bottom of the scale i genuinely believe that.
If they offer the bottom how do I bounce back from it ?
I suppose making it clear what my last job was and exaggerating what I made in my current role would help and should avoid being offer the bottom end of the scale ?

AndrewJRenko

Bigmac1euro wrote: »

This is what I've been thinking. Even the middle or middle/upper is still more money than I was on previously but I do think I am worth more than the bottom of the scale i genuinely believe that.
If they offer the bottom how do I bounce back from it ?
I suppose making it clear what my last job was and exaggerating what I made in my current role would help and should avoid being offer the bottom end of the scale ?

I'd be more focused on the current role than your last role if I were you. Give them factual information that is convincing about the going market rate for the role and how you can add value.

Bigmac1euro

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I'd be more focused on the current role than your last role if I were you. Give them factual information that is convincing about the going market rate for the role and how you can add value.

Apologies, I actually meant my current role not my last role at all.
Thanks for the pointers.
Haven't done an interview in 5 years or so.

dubrov

If you are really taking a step down and going to be paid more then you current employer is vastly underpaying you.

I'd be looking for a sideways move to another company that pays market rate.

whoopsadaisy

Bigmac1euro wrote: »

Tomorrow I have an interview with a very very well known american company.
The money and perks are excellent.
This will help me achieve my goal of being a homeowner faster and will also give me a much better chance with the bank in getting what I want from them, I know this because I have a friend who works in this company and they even have their own mortgage team which helped him buy a home taking his bonus etc into account.

The problem about the job is I would be taking a step down career wise.
I would no longer have the authority I have now and I am basically moving down a level.

At the moment I am very very happy in my Job but it doesn't pay as well as the potentially new job also my current job offers no perks and no holidays.
But I do love the job itself.

Also the new job - Quite a longer commute of an extra 40 minutes ew per day.


Also during the interview should I mention i'm saving for a house or does that make me look like I'm only moving to the company interviewing me for the money ?

Am I right in saying that the only reason you are interested in this position is money / perks and not any other reason? It's a step down in terms of responsibility and would add an extra 40 minutes to your day?

Sounds like it wouldn't exactly be an ideal move unless you were getting the pay you're looking for. Think about what the minimum amount is that you'd be happy to accept this job on and when asked about your salary expectation, quote them a range starting at that amount.

You want to be transparent about what will actually make you take this job - which is why I'm saying to quote the minimum, and then work above it. You may want 55k but if you'd still happily move for 50k, then don't go in and say 55k as a hard expectation as it could put them off.

If you feel you're punching a bit with a high expectation, do a thorough interview prep, give yourself the best chance possible to prove you're worth the amount you are quoting.

noel100

When ever you get a new offer negotiate the best salary at the time. Likely hood when you are working for the company increments are tiny going forward.
I find only time I can get a proper pay increase is leave my current employer and start with someone new.

Bigmac1euro

whoopsadaisy wrote: »

Am I right in saying that the only reason you are interested in this position is money / perks and not any other reason? It's a step down in terms of responsibility and would add an extra 40 minutes to your day?
.

Correct, its also supposed to be quite a nice work environment.
Great reviews from friends who work there etc.

I just feel the job title is not what I should be doing but the positives seem to outweigh the negatives at this moment in time.

Positives being: Paid holidays, Pension, Better pay, bonus and with all that comes a much better chance of getting mortgage approval and a bigger amount if i wanted also they have a mortgage team to help and I would secure a home quicker.

Negatives - Longer commute, longer day by 30 minutes, no overtime, step down in career.


Even if this is a step down i could grow again but I would feel like the last number of years has been a bit of a waste.
This is not a decision I will make lightly.

Although I could possibly go back to my current employer after a year or 2 at the new company as i do have a lot of connections in the contracting game and the company I worked in for the last 5 years.
The only thing is I wouldn't have the authority I have now but I would have the experience and know the company better than the people working there at that time I'm sure.

Everything about the salary negotiations has been spot on so I will take this on board and I will hopefully nail the interview so thanks to the lovely people of boards for that.

And yes I am underpaid for what I do at the moment.

ahnowbrowncow

Bigmac1euro wrote: »

For anyone wondering what the company may be.
Ill give you an obvious hint.
Social Media Giant.

Bigmac1euro wrote: »

Negatives - no overtime.

I'm sure there'll be plenty of overtime, just maybe not paid. Make sure you take the likely unpaid and frequently expected overtime and the extra commute into consideration as you could end up getting paid less per hour worked than your current role.

Bigmac1euro

Mr.S wrote: »

In that case, know that the phone interview is the first round of many :pac: take it one step at a time and I wouldn’t worry about salary yet.

I know this, I am getting way ahead of myself but I cant see me not getting the position.
I had similar for another American giant which I got offered the job but it just wasn't right.
I suppose the reason started this thread was so I am prepared with all the information in my head.
The interviews can all be wrapped up in the same day.
Ill keep yous updated anyway.