3 month notice period

username2013

I have just been offered a job at a large company in Dublin. I work as a software developer/manager and would be responsible for developing solutions, managing people and also setting development strategy etc. The renumeration offered is fair for my level which at this stage is senior.

However I am concerned about the notice period listed in the contract. For me it is 3 months, however for the company it is 1 month (in the probation period which is 6 months it can be 1 week). I am currently living abroad so I am not sure if this is common in the Irish workplace. I have not signed the contract yet.

I hope they will be a good company to work for, but who knows, sometimes a role might turn out to be different to what you were sold. Reviews are mixed on glass-door, but for a large company that is not that unusual.

Looking for some advice, is this a standard practice? I have raised my concern with their HR department but they have not got back to me yet.

Etc

So to be clear, your contract states 3 months notice for a role in Dublin ? If that's the case that's the terms of your contract. Where are you getting the information on 1 month ?

OMM 0000

I think you should try to negotiate a shorter notice period.

Etc

Like that's an option based on the information above.

username2013

Etc wrote: »

So to be clear, your contract states 3 months notice for a role in Dublin ? If that's the case that's the terms of your contract. Where are you getting the information on 1 month ?

Sorry, perhaps I was not clear. The contract is for a permanent role based in Dublin. In the contract offer it states the usual payment details, holidays, etc etc. There is also a notice of termination section. For me, the client, if I wish to leave I have to give 3 months notice. The company if they wish to let me go only have to give me 1 month's notice. Also the first six months are considered the probationary period and in this period they can let me go with a 1 week notice.

I have worked in quite a few roles in my life, and I have never seen a requirement to give a company 3 months notice. The recruiter says it's not unusual for a senior role in big companies, but I would be cautions about believing a recruiter. So my question is, is this common in the Irish workplace?

username2013

OMM 0000 wrote: »

I think you should try to negotiate a shorter notice period.

Yeah, I outlined my thoughts to their HR department which sent me on the offer. Still waiting on their response. Just wanted to know if this is a common practice as I have not worked in Ireland in over 10 years.

The White Wolf

username2013 wrote: »

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I have worked in quite a few roles in my life, and I have never seen a requirement to give a company 3 months notice. The recruiter says it's not unusual for a senior role in big companies, but I would be cautions about believing a recruiter. So my question is, is this common in the Irish workplace?

It would be common in my workplace which is an MNC. Staff would have to work a month and a half notice but anyone team lead or above would have to work a 3 month notice period.

Of course there are ways to fudge that by using holidays and what not.

beauf

I've had a 3 month periods. Didn't think it that unusual. That's said mostly its been a month.

lfc200

I've a 3 month notice period with a non-compete clause also in my contract.
3 month notice not unusual in Ireland and certainly not for more senior staff in large businesses.

OMM 0000

username2013 wrote: »

Yeah, I outlined my thoughts to their HR department which sent me on the offer. Still waiting on their response. Just wanted to know if this is a common practice as I have not worked in Ireland in over 10 years.

My notice period is three months. I'm very senior though in a role which is not easily replaced.

alwald

You should ask the company to give you 3 months notice period as well if they want to let you go. Alternatively they can reduce your notice period to 1 month in case you want to leave. In short the notice period should be the same regardless if the decision to terminate the contract is made by you or your employer.

Sheep Shagger

Different industry but mine is 2 months (senior role) and was at the last place. In reality you can normally negotiate a shorter time if the time comes and you want to leave.

When i Ieft my last place I only did a month as the new place wanted me sooner. Employers often see it as swings and roundabouts.

Would chase HR, at a senior level cant see it being a showstopper to knock it down to 1 or 2 months if you don't want to risk having to rely on goodwill should the time come.

OMM 0000

Thought I should add:

The three month notice period really is a pain though.

It makes looking for a new job extremely difficult, as most places aren't willing to wait three months.

I was looking around for a new job last year, and my conclusion was I'd probably need to quit and then start looking for work on month three.

A mess.

jimmycrackcorm

lfc200 wrote:

I've a 3 month notice period with a non-compete clause also in my contract. 3 month notice not unusual in Ireland and certainly not for more senior staff in large businesses.

Non-compete clauses are invalid unless it can be shown that it actually affects the company such as taking clients to a new company

Three months should apply both ways. But it's not uncommon

skallywag

The 3 month notice period in itself can be quite common, but I would not accept it unless it is matched on the other side, i.e. they also need to give you the same notice if leaving you go. I would definitely insist on this. I have a 4 month period, but it goes both ways, I had 3 months in my previous job and it also went the other way.

It's completely unreasonable otherwise.

KeithTS

I wouldn't be too concerned with this. It's more unusual that the period differs depending on who terminates the contract though.

At senior levels it can be tough replacing people and at that level other companies are generally open to negotiations on start dates etc for talent. For example, I've a new guy who's not starting til June and he was hired back in February. He has commitments in his current role, I respect that he wants to do right by his current employer as it shows he may show us the same consideration if/when he leaves.

In general, take glassdoor reviews with a pinch of salt, they're rarely written by the people who loved their job.

dragonfly!

In my last job my notice period was 2 months
Where I am now is 6 weeks
Neither was senior level
It does make job searching very difficult

witchgirl26

The 3 month notice is fairly standard for any roles I was looking at myself a few years ago however I agree that it should be the same on both sides and this is what I'd push for from them.
While I agree it can be annoying in terms of looking for a new role, one recruiter I was talking to said that a lot of people hand in their notice before actively pursuing other roles but also alternatively, many workplaces who are putting 3 month notice periods into their contracts recognise that they might have to wait that long for the candidate they want to hire.

Stark

I'd push to have it both ways.

In practice, it doesn't matter that much. I've had 3 months notice period in my last two jobs and in neither job was the 3 month notice period actually enforced. It's usually not in an employer's interest to have someone on the payroll for that long after they've mentally checked out of the place. Longest I've been asked to stay was 6 weeks. I've also told prospective employers that they may have to wait 3 months for me and they were okay with that. The marketplace is so competitive these days that I can't imagine any employer turning down hiring someone at offer stage just because they have to wait a little longer (they would have to wait a lot longer if they went back to the start of the pipeline with someone else).

bswan

Normally i see 1 month for devs, junior and senior.
3 months for team leads and middle management