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Suggest a piece that looks like a Patek Philippe Grand Complication?

  • 26-03-2019 10:26pm
    #1
    theheavyhitter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 105 ✭✭


    bghdZ7n
    I love the Patek Philippe Grand Complication pieces. But they are way out of my league.
    So I have been looking for an alternative, within a max budget of circa 2000 Euro.
    Ideally I would like a Swiss made piece, so brands I have been looking through are Oris and Longines.
    The Oris Artix Complication Moonphase is one I really fancy. They look good in both the white dial, and blue; but blue would be my preference.
    The Longines Master Complication is the other piece I am considering. At 2.2K Euro on Montredo it is slightly above my budget so I am leaning more toward the Oris.
    Let me know what you think?
    And please suggest any pieces that would fit the bill?
    https://ibb.co/fFBZsNS
    https://ibb.co/3y5yKvX


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  • #2
    theheavyhitter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 105 ✭✭theheavyhitter


    Although I said ideally Swiss, I am open to other countries of manufacture.
    Thanks for Eoin for posting this Sinn in the Baselworld 2019 thread, as I had not seen it before.
    I am now considering either the Oris or this Sinn, as I like the clean dial layout.
    https://ibb.co/fCpcjPq


  • #3
    oxocube
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭oxocube


    theheavyhitter wrote: »
    Although I said ideally Swiss, I am open to other countries of manufacture.
    Thanks for Eoin for posting this Sinn in the Baselworld 2019 thread, as I had not seen it before.
    I am now considering either the Oris or this Sinn, as I like the clean dial layout.
    https://ibb.co/fCpcjPq

    Buy a Speedmaster triple date :)


  • #4
    theheavyhitter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 105 ✭✭theheavyhitter


    oxocube wrote: »
    Buy a Speedmaster triple date :)

    Thanks for the suggestion. Lovely piece.
    I would have to buy pre-owned though to stay within my circa 2K Euro budget.
    So think a new Oris would be better for me.


  • #5
    Thirdfox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    Presumably mechanical is what you're looking for?

    Because Citizen do a great quartz line at around your 2k budget:

    https://www.chrono24.com/citizen/campanola-kokiake-eco-drive--id8996050.htm
    https://www.chrono24.com/citizen/campanola-kokiake-grand-complication--id8997142.htm

    How else can you gain access to perpetual calendar, moonphase, minute repeater(!), 1/100th chronograph, 24hour, lacquered rosewood dial in a sub-200,000 euro watch ;)

    It's very much in the spirit of a PP grand complication though.



    And if you like the quartz module but don't need the Citizen finishing you can always spend 400ish and get a Shellman with the same features as a Citizen in a more affordable shell:
    https://www.chrono24.com/all/shellman-ref-30a1449--id10705224.htm - minute repeater, moonphase etc etc.


    I'm primarily a mechanical watch wearer myself but hey - at least this quartz module has a capacity trimmer - meaning that yes, you can regulate this quartz movement - so..."technically" more mechanical than a Seiko springdrive :p


  • #6
    Thirdfox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    Should always add pictures - especially for high end quartz :D
    Citizen-Campanola-Grand-Complication.jpg

    The fancy citizen.

    GCclassicglamour.jpg

    It's more affordable recasing.

    I guess it's similar to ETAs in old Tudors, IWC etc - same movement but in a different case it's a different price.


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  • #7
    theheavyhitter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 105 ✭✭theheavyhitter


    Thank you for your suggestions. Nothing wrong with quartz at all. In fact I am a big fan of Grand Seiko quartz pieces.
    Yes, I prefer mechanical pieces; but don't mind manual wind or automatic movements.
    However the pieces you have suggested are not to my personal taste.
    So far the Oris Artix is the one I like the best, all things considered. Having said that, bias comes into it as I am real fan of Oris.
    They seem to have fixed the Selitta's SW200 movement defect with the crown winding gear.


  • #8
    theheavyhitter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 105 ✭✭theheavyhitter


    OK this isn't a grand complication, no moonphase or month. But I do like the chronograph dial layout and blue finish.
    https://ibb.co/Tg92nS4


  • #9
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    What about something from Seagull?

    https://www.seagullwatchstore.com/SEAGULL-M199S-Classic-Moonphase-Chronograph-Watch-p/m199s.htm

    I don't own one, but watch out for fakes on the bay and Amazon.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #10
    theheavyhitter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 105 ✭✭theheavyhitter


    blue5000 wrote: »
    What about something from Seagull?

    https://www.seagullwatchstore.com/SEAGULL-M199S-Classic-Moonphase-Chronograph-Watch-p/m199s.htm

    I don't own one, but watch out for fakes on the bay and Amazon.

    Thank you for your suggestion. Not to my taste.
    However I do respect Seagull are making good movements for their respective price.
    The ST2130 is a good clone of the ETA 2824-2 for example; but does not have as good finishing.
    The reality is, some of the Chinese clones of ETA movements are close to the originals.
    Interesting they are able to make a Tourbillion movement.
    https://ibb.co/nR4GQz2
    Video of of it here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB4G4XNn8FI


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