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1st all female spacewalk cancelled due to spacesuit size issue

  • 26-03-2019 5:26pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    It's a shame really...

    Nasa's first ever all-female spacewalk will no longer go ahead as planned because of a late change to one of the astronaut's spacesuit size requirements.
    Astronauts Anne McClain and Christina Koch were originally due to take part in the historic moment on Friday, but the space agency has announced that male astronaut Nick Hague will now go instead of McClain.

    The American space agency said that McClain originally thought a large-sized spacesuit would be fit for purpose, but following a spacewalk last week decided that a medium would be safer.

    There is more than one medium size spacesuit torso on board the International Space Station, Nasa explained, but it would not be able to make it available in time.

    It was therefore deemed safer and faster to change spacewalker assignments instead of reconfiguring spacesuits.
    Nasa's first all-female spacewalk cancelled due to spacesuit size issue

    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/nasas-first-allfemale-spacewalk-cancelled-due-to-spacesuit-size-issue-37953265.html


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    so its cancelled for safety reasons? makes sense. dont want to be putting lives at risk for no reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    Size zero-gravity


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭squawker


    still trying to figure out why an all Female space walk is such a big deal or newsworthy :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Too many pies?
    I would have thought they plan ahead on these outer space junkets. Did they not know what they packed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    Typical women,pack everything in the wardrobe for a trip and still say they have nothing to wear.

    :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,095 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    the devils in the detail.
    id be reluctant to put my life in the hands of people who cant get suit sizes right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,808 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Too many pies?
    Not enough pies. They though it'd be safer for her to wear a 'Medium', rather than the 'Large' that was available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Colours not matching hair or makes her bum
    Look bigger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    squawker wrote: »
    still trying to figure out why an all Female space walk is such a big deal or newsworthy :confused:

    Nearly fifty years behind the men is hardly something to be excited by.

    Is it all women who developed the technology to get them there and will be making the big calls back at mission control??

    Of course it isn't.

    But if there was a choice of shirt to get the knickers in a twist over..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    squawker wrote: »
    still trying to figure out why an all Female space walk is such a big deal or newsworthy :confused:

    MeToo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,698 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    squawker wrote: »
    still trying to figure out why an all Female space walk is such a big deal or newsworthy :confused:
    It’s the first time it was meant to happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Ghostbusters in space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭rgodard80a


    squawker wrote: »
    still trying to figure out why an all Female space walk is such a big deal or newsworthy :confused:

    Yeah, women have been used to vacuums for decades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Pronto63


    She changed her mind when she realised the other lady had the same suit from the same shop.........the horror :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭squawker


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    It’s the first time it was meant to happen.

    still dont get it?

    so what if two women are on a spacewalk together, just fail to see the achievement

    its not like a spacewalk is anything new, its been done for the last 40 odd years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    "Why is it newsworthy?" :fauxconfusedface:

    And yet guys are the ones talking about it on this thread. Barely registered with me - spotted some mention on social media all right and moved on with my life.
    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Nearly fifty years behind the men is hardly something to be excited by.

    Is it all women who developed the technology to get them there and will be making the big calls back at mission control??

    Of course it isn't.

    But if there was a choice of shirt to get the knickers in a twist over..
    Not a fan of women are ya padd?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    squawker wrote: »
    still dont get it?

    so what if two women are on a spacewalk together, just fail to see the achievement

    its not like a spacewalk is anything new, its been done for the last 40 odd years

    Yeah and it's never consisted of only women in those 40 odd years. It's really not that hard to grasp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭squawker


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Yeah and it's never consisted of only women in those 40 odd years. It's really not that hard to grasp

    nah, first women on the Moon would be something to talk about

    this is like two women take out the rubbish bin in space terms

    load of sh1te


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Tails142


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Yeah and it's never consisted of only women in those 40 odd years. It's really not that hard to grasp

    Who knows what gender those astronauts considered themselves, terrible to assume they were all males just based on outward personas.... Hahahaha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    There's a Russian magazine for women's space wear and fashion...











    Cosmo


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    How would you accessorize a space suit though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Force Carrier


    All of these alleged 'spacewalks' didn't involve any walking at all. Astronauts floating about or getting thrust from the The Manned Maneuvering Unit (MMU)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    "Why is it newsworthy?" :fauxconfusedface:

    And yet guys are the ones talking about it on this thread. Barely registered with me - spotted some mention on social media all right and moved on with my life.

    Not a fan of women are ya padd?
    Show me a female trailblazer and I'll happily applaud.

    No time whatsoever for these Josephine-come-latelies and their cheerleaders to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Force Carrier


    How would you accessorize a space suit though?


    There would have been absolute murder when they both showed up in the same outfit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    squawker wrote: »
    still trying to figure out why an all Female space walk is such a big deal or newsworthy :confused:

    Aye, it’s kind of a boring landmark. There have been female astronauts for decades.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Show me a female trailblazer and I'll happily applaud.

    No time whatsoever for these Josephine-come-latelies and their cheerleaders to be honest.
    I agree with that but it's more your digs at women I'm referring to. It's really not necessary. The most sh1ts I've seen given about this story is here.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Milena Teeny Hunter


    lol dae hate women guys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Show me a female trailblazer and I'll happily applaud.

    No time whatsoever for these Josephine-come-latelies and their cheerleaders to be honest.

    There have been many.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,560 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Nearly fifty years behind the men is hardly something to be excited by.

    Is it all women who developed the technology to get them there and will be making the big calls back at mission control??

    Of course it isn't.

    But if there was a choice of shirt to get the knickers in a twist over..

    Jesus.. that's some miserable attitude to have


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Nearly fifty years behind the men is hardly something to be excited by.

    Is it all women who developed the technology to get them there and will be making the big calls back at mission control??

    Of course it isn't.
    Actually a huge amount of the coding for the computers that put men on the moon was done by women. There were also a bunch of women selected for the early mercury and gemini missions and one in particular outshone pretty much all the male astronauts in testing and pilot ability. They nearly got the chance to go too as the Soviets got a woman up in orbit first and the Americans wanted to do the same.

    The main reason they weren't sent? A couple of the high ups considered the idea of a woman going along on a mission with men to be "troublesome" and the both would be uncomfortable(the male astronauts themselves had no issue) and adapting suits and the rest for women would be extra complication. Which is mostly bollocks too. Slightly smaller pressure suits. Job done. Indeed a couple of the blokes weren't exactly tall either. Pete Conrad who commanded the second lunar landing, his first words as he stepped out onto the surface were; "it might have been a small step for Neill, but it's a big step for me", cos he was a shorter lad.

    Being shorter and smaller of frame is actually an advantage for spaceflight as space as far as human flight is concerned is badly named, it would be better called "cramped as fcuk". Being shorter also tends to make someone better at resisting high positive G forces. Women on average also use less O2 and kilo for kilo consume less resources too. Their main disadvantage is bone loss. It happens to everyone in low gravity environments, but men naturally have more biological insurance against bone loss.

    In this current case the wrong sized pressure suit is a major issue on a couple of levels. Pressurised EVA suits are already a bloody cumbersome deal. EG if the sleeves are too long your fingers won't reach the end of the gloves. Too short and it's incredibly uncomfortable. On one lunar mission one lad's sleeves were a little short and he tore a few fingernails off and the lunar EVA suits were tailored to the individual(these days they're more "off the peg" in different sizes.. It's a bloody dangerous thing to do and you want the fit of your suit to be as close as possible. Never mind having confidence, or lack thereof in an agency that didn't allow for this when they knew your measurements.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Imagine that highly qualified and trained astronauts cannot find space suits that actually fit ,


    This is hardly choosing a Saturday night outfit for coppers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko




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    The lads were probably looking forward to the peace and quiet..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭screamer


    squawker wrote: »
    still trying to figure out why an all Female space walk is such a big deal or newsworthy :confused:

    Are you male?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    biko wrote: »
    Sounds about right. And shows how low budget NASA is these days when they only have a few suits to choose from. Never mind the longwinded deal with getting them on and out the door. Consider the two guy Apollo lander teams were able to get them readied and pressurised for EVA on the lunar surface where a lot more can go wrong in a internal space about the size of a wardrobe and out a hatch that had only an inch or so of clearance. Now it takes over an hour and a team of helpers to get them out a hatch six times the size. The Russians can do it quicker too. TBH I prefer some aspects of their EVA suits. It's all bit cut price and nambypamby. In the "old days" the men(and women too) selected were test pilots and military heads with a fair bit of "nerd", now astronauts tend to be just "nerds", at least the US ones. The cosmonauts tend to be more old school in this regard. If the poo ever hits the fan, I know which I'd prefer to flying with.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Bloody women, always doing stuff. Why can't we go back to the times when women didn't do stuff?


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