Cannondale race bikes

fat bloke

I've a fierce goo on me for a number of years now for a top end Cannondale. I just really like the traditional look, I like the colour schemes, the straight tubing, standard triangle. I just think they look the business.

Not the synapse, not the systemsix. I mean the supersix evo (High Mod), and to a lesser extent the CAAD12.

Has anyone here ever had a High Mod Supersix Evo? There's a lovely one for sale on donedeal but it's way-hey up the top of the country. I'd be interested to hear of any reviews of 'em from folk who'd had. They're not cheap, so you don't see them around that much really.

Plastik

Have a 58 HM that I'll be pulling out of winter hibernation shortly if you think it'll fit you for a blast in the hills. In relation to the CAAD12, hold tough on that one as there's a 13 on the way so there may be deals to be had.

I've a CAAD10 as a daily/winter/commuter and the SixHM is a different beast. For a long time after I got the CAAD I considered selling the Six because I thought it gave 95% of the same ride for substantially less price, but just one winters hibernation of the Six put that to rest once it was reintroduced. Similar, but there's a marked difference. Short review, love mine, PF bottom bracket is a pain, no plans to change for a long time. Like you, it represents a perfect aesthetic / performance ratio for me.

fat bloke

Plastik wrote: »

Similar, but there's a marked difference. .

Good to hear. - There SHOULD be a performance difference comensurate with the price differential.
Didn't know you had a HM though. What year/colour/spec is it? -Must get out for a spin some time (he said for the zillionth time, and the 19th year in a row:o)

terrydel

fat bloke wrote: »

I've a fierce goo on me for a number of years now for a top end Cannondale. I just really like the traditional look, I like the colour schemes, the straight tubing, standard triangle. I just think they look the business.

Not the synapse, not the systemsix. I mean the supersix evo (High Mod), and to a lesser extent the CAAD12.

Has anyone here ever had a High Mod Supersix Evo? There's a lovely one for sale on donedeal but it's way-hey up the top of the country. I'd be interested to hear of any reviews of 'em from folk who'd had. They're not cheap, so you don't see them around that much really.

https://www.adverts.ie/road-bikes/cannondale-super-six-evo-team-ed-2015/16232353

Good friend of mine selling this one.

Bambaata

I've the older (up to 2015 - same as that on the adverts link) HM and I love it, well them (i've two - car hit me on the first after having it only 6 weeks and cracked the frame and ive since had it repaired! Id bought the frame again after the incident as in was worried insurance would only cover what I paid which was about 60% off the RRP as a frameset the version had just been revamped)

I went from a Focus Cayo to it and immediately felt a massive difference, I couldn't get over how different it felt for the good. I hadn't expected that. Only issue with mine is the narrowness of the older versions, I can only go to 23mm tyres on the rear

Plastik

fat bloke wrote: »

Good to hear. - There SHOULD be a performance difference comensurate with the price differential.
Didn't know you had a HM though. What year/colour/spec is it? -Must get out for a spin some time (he said for the zillionth time, and the 19th year in a row:o)

Mine is one of the newer framesets, 2016 DuraAce2 version in a matt grey with some red/orange. All DA, not the latest iteration with the shadow RD, and came with the Cannondale spiderring chainset/cranks.

fat bloke

Ooh. That's gorgeous Plastik.

@Terry, 54 no good for me unfortunately.

Luxman

Curses to this thread, I am now browsing Cannondale bikes. Was supposed to be my first road bike years ago but ended up with a Trek, love affair has recommenced now

Lumen

I also love Cannondale, they were the dream bike when I first started cycling in the 1990s.

I was going to post something about the CAAD bikes looking better than the plastic ones, but it seems like they ruined the look with the CAAD12.

Bit too angle-y for my luddite tastes.



Compare to the modest, understated look of the older generation bikes.

ednwireland

https://www.paulscycles.co.uk/clearance/

always used to be the goto for clearance deals on cannondales, still a few on there

Bambaata

Thats who i got my HM frames from. I managed to get the first frameset at £819! Second at about £1069 a few months later.

terrydel

fat bloke wrote: »

Ooh. That's gorgeous Plastik.

@Terry, 54 no good for me unfortunately.

Pity, it's a lovely bike. Personally I think he's asking a bit much.

Plastik

It's rich alright. I didn't pay a massive amount more than that for mine new here www.bikelineshop.de/race-bike Had never heard of them before but very easy to deal with. No problem or charge changing out the cassette or the semi-compact for a 53/39 pre-purchase.

Raam

Hmmmm
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=147445

A conker fell and dented the top tube of that CAAD12.

Plastik

Ha. My CAAD10 has two dents in the top tube, one from the handlebars.

I was always a big fan of this colour scheme on the last generation

rodneyTrotter.

Supersix himod owner myself . Not the latest but the previous model. Shoots up hills . Having ridden a fair few bikes including a Caad12 , it’s definitely the liveliest and fantastic for climbing
That one on adverts is overpriced.

AmberGold

rodneyTrotter. wrote: »

Supersix himod owner myself . Not the latest but the previous model. Shoots up hills . Having ridden a fair few bikes including a Caad12 , it’s definitely the liveliest and fantastic for climbing
That one on adverts is overpriced.

If its the 56 Hi Mod Etap you’re referring to it looks well priced to me.. slammed stem would cause me an issue thou. Looks like with a little negotiation it could be a great deal.

Lumen

1600 with no wheels seems about right to me. Nice new wheels and a service and you're at 2.5k.

Superbikes depreciate like crazy. There's a new one listed on CSS for 5.5k, but the RRP is way over that.

terrydel

AmberGold wrote: »

If its the 56 Hi Mod Etap you’re referring to it looks well priced to me.. slammed stem would cause me an issue thou. Looks like with a little negotiation it could be a great deal.

Think he's referring to my mates one (54) at 3k with the vision wheels.

terrydel

Lumen wrote: »

1600 with no wheels seems about right to me. Nice new wheels and a service and you're at 2.5k.

Superbikes depreciate like crazy. There's a new one listed on CSS for 5.5k, but the RRP is way over that.

They do, tho the rrp on new hi end cannondales is a joke, plenty of them up near 10k. You'd want to be an idiot to pay that as it's blatantly ripping people off.

Andy Magic

Beautiful bikes, I almost changed over to them myself. I think they look well even when large sizes, which is good for tall cyclists.

MojoMaker

It must be a sign - the only left in stock is your size...

https://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m7b0s6p7494/CANNONDALE-SUPERSIX-EVO-ULTEGRA-2017

Bambaata

That's not the hi-mod, not that im all that convinced that there's much of a difference? Has anyone been on both?

fat bloke

Bambaata wrote: »

That's not the hi-mod, not that im all that convinced that there's much of a difference? Has anyone been on both?

Massive difference in price. Regular supersixes are cheap.

Bambaata

Yeah I've seen that. Few search results from users say the hi-mod is more comfortable, handles better and accelerates better. Whether it's worth the extra cash is debatable. I'd be tempted by the non hi-mods if buying again but often see the hi-mod going cheaply as a frameset

Plastik

I've never ridden a regular non-HM Six, but for some reason they've never particularly appealed to me. I think faced with the decision I'd probably be more tempted by a decent spec CAAD.

terrydel

Bambaata wrote: »

Yeah I've seen that. Few search results from users say the hi-mod is more comfortable, handles better and accelerates better. Whether it's worth the extra cash is debatable. I'd be tempted by the non hi-mods if buying again but often see the hi-mod going cheaply as a frameset

How do people quantify this kind of ****e, other than perception?

fat bloke

terrydel wrote: »

How do people quantify this kind of ****e, other than perception?

Yerra sure its the same as the 105/ultegra/duraace. Doesn't really matter a feck in reality. But if I'm buying a posh bike I want the high mod / the sworks / the SLX etc.

terrydel

fat bloke wrote: »

Yerra sure its the same as the 105/ultegra/duraace. Doesn't really matter a feck in reality. But if I'm buying a posh bike I want the high mod / the sworks / the SLX etc.

I switch between cringing and anger when i read bike reviews ****ting on about a bike climbing well, descending great etc. Its basically all ****e, yes theres a difference from bike to bike but noticing it and quantifying it is nigh on impossible, from one model to another at least.

magicbastarder

you mean you've never been on a bike and thought 'this is twitchy' or 'this feels like its on rails', etc?

thelawman

7% stiffer frame than previous model, 2% more compliant, 13 seconds quicker in the wind tunnel at 456 watts, .... you want cash or card

magicbastarder

which % applies to the interest rate on the card?

tuxy

Whenever I see a Cannondale I'm usually impressed by how good looking the bikes are but I also would be concerned about BB30.
Have Cannondale managed to solve the issues with bb30 yet?

magicbastarder

terrydel wrote: »

but noticing it and quantifying it is nigh on impossible

i'm giving this one to terrydel on a technicality as he said 'noticing it AND quantifying it' and not 'noticing it OR quantifying it'.

CramCycle

tuxy wrote: »

Whenever I see a Cannondale I'm usually impressed by how good looking the bikes are but I also would be concerned about BB30.
Have Cannondale managed to solve the issues with bb30 yet?

The BB is pretty much the only reason I haven't bought a Cannondale yet.

tuxy

Someone should tell them about the benefits of a threaded bottom bracket

irishrover99

Don’t worry about the bb30.
You’ll be going so fast on the Cannondale that nobody will hear you😀.
But seriously, after a lot of research or google searches I should say, I’ve concluded that it’s a press fit issue common to all bikes with these bottom brackets and not a bb30 or Cannondale issue.
I bought my caad12 last year and the difference between it and other bikes I’ve owned in terms of handling is night and day. I also got a bb30a converter so I can fit shimano cranks, once the ones the came with bike are worn out.

tuxy

If you like bb30 why not replace the bearing when it wears out instead of using the converter?

CramCycle

Square taper for the win :cool:

irishrover99

tuxy wrote: »

If you like bb30 why not replace the bearing when it wears out instead of using the converter?

I wouldn't say i like it TBH.
I just bought the converter because it gives me more options down the road.

irishrover99

CramCycle wrote: »

Square taper for the win :cool:

I can't stand them.
The amount of skin i lost of my knuckles removing those things.
When the threads get worn, they are a disaster to remove.

cajonlardo

I have owned 3 cannondale with the bb30

First one developed the squeak.
I took off the chainset cleaned the spindle and bearing race with rag and degrease, reassembled.
All good. For a fortnight. Then squeak came back. Stripped again repeated cleaning but this time I was scrupulous
This time I also used torque wrench
No more squeak for several months.

Then I decided that every month I'd do the strip clean re grease. Never had a squeak after that. Got 3 full years out of a caadx riding it all year round all weather commutes, training and several sportives.

That routine will take 15minutes every month to 6 weeks.

CramCycle

irishrover99 wrote: »

I can't stand them.
The amount of skin i lost of my knuckles removing those things.
When the threads get worn, they are a disaster to remover.

Bar my track bike, after I changed my first Hollowtech BB, I was like, what was all that BS I was messing with for years, this is wonderful.