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Inbreeding !!

  • 05-03-2019 5:44pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭


    Anyone ever have a cow get incalf to her son!!................and what if any are the consequences......silly question I know , just wondered about the answer..TIA


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,358 ✭✭✭tanko


    Happened here years ago, didnt end well, she aborted late in pregnancy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,430 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    mikeoh wrote: »
    Anyone ever have a cow get incalf to her son!!................and what if any are the consequences......silly question I know , just wondered about the answer..TIA

    Probably not as bad but the year of the suckler quota I had 16 heifers in calf accidentally to their half brother..... best calving season followed by the best heifers calves I ever had..... plus 16 extra in my suckler quota


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭148multi


    wrangler wrote: »
    Probably not as bad but the year of the suckler quota I had 16 heifers in calf accidentally to their half brother..... best calving season followed by the best heifers calves I ever had..... plus 16 extra in my suckler quota

    The half brother would share 12% of the genes, I think, which isn't too bad. The cow and son whole different ball game. It's interesting to see horse breeders line breeding mostly with good results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,430 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    148multi wrote: »
    The half brother would share 12% of the genes, I think, which isn't too bad. The cow and son whole different ball game. It's interesting to see horse breeders line breeding mostly with good results.

    It's called line breeding if it works and inbreeding if it doesn't :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭Who2


    I've had a few heifers get bulled by their own father and never had any hassle. the calves wouldn't have had great growth rates.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭mikeoh


    148multi wrote: »
    The half brother would share 12% of the genes, I think, which isn't too bad. The cow and son whole different ball game. It's interesting to see horse breeders line breeding mostly with good results.

    Am I right in thinking mother and son would share 75% of genes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    mikeoh wrote: »
    Am I right in thinking mother and son would share 75% of genes

    Mother and son share 50%

    Mother bred by son results in a calf with 75% of mothers genes and 25% of the original father


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    It obviously has a bad name. Produces weak and unhealthy offspring


    But on the other side of the argument, Offaly did still somehow manage to win a few AI's


    All Ireland's that is





    *Joke and not meant to offend Offaly people...I know ye are not actually all inbred... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭148multi


    It obviously has a bad name. Produces weak and unhealthy offspring


    But on the other side of the argument, Offaly did still somehow manage to win a few AI's


    All Ireland's that is





    *Joke and not meant to offend Offaly people...I know ye are not actually all inbred... :p

    Tim floods pip had one set of grandparents, by god it didn't hold him back, but then he had Tim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭The Real Elmer Fudd


    mikeoh wrote: »
    Anyone ever have a cow get incalf to her son!!................and what if any are the consequences......silly question I know , just wondered about the answer..TIA

    Happened hear years ago. She was one of the top producing cows we had at the time, Consistently producing quality calves every year.

    However, she happened to get bulled by her son one year and produced a small weak heifer calf that never grew. You could tell straight off looking at it, that there was something amiss with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    148multi wrote: »
    Tim floods pip had one set of grandparents, by god it didn't hold him back, but then he had Tim.


    Sorry for pulling the thread off in a tangent, but in honour of the Offaly folk out there I'll end with this :p





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭MeheeHohee


    Recently bought a pedigree Heifer from a well known herd. The dam is a full sister to the grandsire on the other side. What percent inbreeding is this? Animal is s super looking Heifer. Definatly no physical deficencys


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