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Mercedes-Benz E Class estate W212 [10-12] experiences?

  • 27-02-2019 12:45pm
    #1
    Paddy@CIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭


    Folks,

    I'm currently in the market for a new daily driver and have been looking at all sorts, but have become quite fond of the pre-facelift W212s in estate form. In particular, I'm looking at the E250CDI in sport guise and would probably import from the UK.

    Has anyone real world experience of the W212 (either saloon or estate) or know of any major issues / flaws with them? Any feedback would be hugely appreciated.

    Cheers!


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  • #2
    kirving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭kirving


    I have a 2013 W212 Estate Hybrid. If you're going to import from the UK, I'd strongly recommend going with the Hybrid model due the VRT savings. 201bph and 500NM of torque make it nice a capable on the motorway.

    Absolutely acres of space in the estate model, and the seats can be pulled down from the rear with a lever. Quick jump into the boot and then the parcel shelf holder / cargo net can be clipped off and moved forward and reset just behind the driver seat. I can get a 29" commuter bike and 27.5" mountain bike into the boot at the same time no bother.

    You'd be best to get a facelift if you can afford it, some nice improvements were made in interior for 2013 I think.

    Couple of issues in terms of spec I think.
    By default the seats are only semi-electric, and do not have memory. Might seem like a small issue, but my last Volvo has it and I miss it.
    Sports seats could be more comfortable on longer drives. Again (vs. a Volvo)
    No right side footrest, and the right one is somewhat far away.
    The wipers have only 2 sensitivity settings too, which are both too slow, which is a real pain.

    Whats your budget?


  • #3
    Paddy@CIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭Paddy@CIRL


    Kevin Irving wrote: »
    I have a 2013 W212 Estate Hybrid. If you're going to import from the UK, I'd strongly recommend going with the Hybrid model due the VRT savings. 201bph and 500NM of torque make it nice a capable on the motorway.

    Absolutely acres of space in the estate model, and the seats can be pulled down from the rear with a lever. Quick jump into the boot and then the parcel shelf holder / cargo net can be clipped off and moved forward and reset just behind the driver seat. I can get a 29" commuter bike and 27.5" mountain bike into the boot at the same time no bother.

    You'd be best to get a facelift if you can afford it, some nice improvements were made in interior for 2013 I think.

    Couple of issues in terms of spec I think.
    By default the seats are only semi-electric, and do not have memory. Might seem like a small issue, but my last Volvo has it and I miss it.
    Sports seats could be more comfortable on longer drives. Again (vs. a Volvo)
    No right side footrest, and the right one is somewhat far away.
    The wipers have only 2 sensitivity settings too, which are both too slow, which is a real pain.

    Whats your budget?

    Great information, Kevin. Thank you!

    I'm certainly open to the idea of a hybrid, but I'm not sure if I've seen any so far within my (meagre) budget of ~€12,000 so far. My current daily (which I intend to keep and use for weekends / track days) has a fixed back bucket seat, so I think anything will be a huge step up in terms of comfort!


  • #4
    bidiots
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭bidiots


    Kevin Irving wrote: »
    I have a 2013 W212 Estate Hybrid. If you're going to import from the UK, I'd strongly recommend going with the Hybrid model due the VRT savings. 201bph and 500NM of torque make it nice a capable on the motorway.

    Absolutely acres of space in the estate model, and the seats can be pulled down from the rear with a lever. Quick jump into the boot and then the parcel shelf holder / cargo net can be clipped off and moved forward and reset just behind the driver seat. I can get a 29" commuter bike and 27.5" mountain bike into the boot at the same time no bother.

    You'd be best to get a facelift if you can afford it, some nice improvements were made in interior for 2013 I think.

    Couple of issues in terms of spec I think.
    By default the seats are only semi-electric, and do not have memory. Might seem like a small issue, but my last Volvo has it and I miss it.
    Sports seats could be more comfortable on longer drives. Again (vs. a Volvo)
    No right side footrest, and the right one is somewhat far away.
    The wipers have only 2 sensitivity settings too, which are both too slow, which is a real pain.

    Whats your budget?

    Excellent info Kevin
    I'm considering between an Outlander phev and the Merc.
    In terms of the diesel hybrid engine, I'm presuming big annual mileage is better as per usual diesel problems? Dpf etc
    In terms of reliability, there isn't much info out there in forums about this engine


  • #5
    kirving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭kirving


    As always, longer journey's are better for a diesel car. My driving usually consists of 200km Motorway commute on a Monday morning, a series of 5 minute drives to work, and then 200km home on a Friday. Have had no issue with DPF to date.

    The hybrid is only really useful when taking off, and is rarely used above 20kph.

    The engine used in the car OM651, tuned as per the E250. Best to search for that when looking for reliability issues online. There are mixed reports, but on the whole the main thing to be concerned about is the timing chain at the rear of the engine is expensive to replace.


  • #6
    pale rider
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭pale rider


    I have had a trouble free five years with a w212 e250cdi and can recommend, the twin turbo has oodles of poke with fuel economy and good solid build.

    I'm not changing any time soon


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  • #7
    at9qu5vp0wcix7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭at9qu5vp0wcix7


    Kevin Irving wrote: »
    I have a 2013 W212 Estate Hybrid. If you're going to import from the UK, I'd strongly recommend going with the Hybrid model due the VRT savings. 201bph and 500NM of torque make it nice a capable on the motorway.

    Absolutely acres of space in the estate model, and the seats can be pulled down from the rear with a lever. Quick jump into the boot and then the parcel shelf holder / cargo net can be clipped off and moved forward and reset just behind the driver seat. I can get a 29" commuter bike and 27.5" mountain bike into the boot at the same time no bother.

    You'd be best to get a facelift if you can afford it, some nice improvements were made in interior for 2013 I think.

    Couple of issues in terms of spec I think.
    By default the seats are only semi-electric, and do not have memory. Might seem like a small issue, but my last Volvo has it and I miss it.
    Sports seats could be more comfortable on longer drives. Again (vs. a Volvo)
    No right side footrest, and the right one is somewhat far away.
    The wipers have only 2 sensitivity settings too, which are both too slow, which is a real pain.

    Whats your budget?

    500NM makes it a lot more than capable! :O


  • #8
    jmreire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,855 ✭✭✭jmreire


    The 2009-2013 E Class saloon with the OM651 engine and 5 speed (722.6 ) automatic transmission is a fine car, Very comfortable car all day long...made for the motorway. On very mixed driving, short trips on back mountainy roads, motorway driving, drawing a trailer etc. Definitely not the kind of driving you want to be doing in a fuel economy competition, but I am averaging 12.5 Klms / Litre. Continual long runs using the speed control give much better results. If you can, make sure that the car you buy has a full service history......used to be that MB automatic transmission's were "filled for Life" and as such there is no dipstick supplied for checking the transmission Fluid level ( or quality)The timing chain issue has already been mentioned here, but I would be asking serious question's about it's condition. The one on mine was replaced at 130'000 Klms, so I am Ok for another 100'000 Klms, and I have already changed the Transmission fluid and filter. Have a look at the transmission dipstick tube and see what colour locking tab is on it.....if it has a black lock on it, that's usually the factory original, If it's red, it means that some one has maybe changed it. In the 722.6 Trans, oil needs changing roughly every 40'000 klms. There was an issue with the seat covering, it's called "Artico" and has a bad habit of splitting along the seams. especially on the drivers seat. so just something to watch out for. If its possible, try and get an OBD scan done on it before you buy.....iCarsoft have a fine MB scanner available, and you may know some one who has one, and may scan it for you. It's good insurance. Best of luck with it !!


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