Value my car please?

Superfoods

Just wondering what valuation of car would be, just ball park.

141 Ford Galaxy Titanium 2.0ltr automatic. It's the older interior, I think some 14 had the new interior....69k miles on it. Good spec and has a tow bar fitted on back.....I was hoping to get 19k but I think I am fooling myself....

Going to have a chat with a garage now as well

Heres Johnny

There's comparable mileage ones from dealers for in around the 16 to 17k car mark for sale. So I doubt you can get dealer money for yours. Would a private sale or a trade in be about 14 or 15k maybe

wassie

Not sure what you mean by the older interior - there was a model change in 2015? Otherwise the the interior was fairly consistent in the last few years of the first gen model (although I stand to be corrected).

Besides the condition of your car, one of the main factors affecting price will be which engine spec you have - there are few different specs in the 2013 & 14 Auto Galaxy (& S-max) models (more prevalent with the UK imports) resulting in motor taxes ranging from €390 to €750. What is the tax on your car?

colm_mcm

You can bring in same spec in auto from the uk (bought from dealer) with less mileage for approx €15.5k

I’d expect garage to offer €13-13.5k on a trade in, based on a valuation of €12000

Shefwedfan

colm_mcm wrote: »

You can bring in same spec in auto from the uk (bought from dealer) with less mileage for approx €15.5k

I’d expect garage to offer €13-13.5k on a trade in, based on a valuation of €12000

From what dealer? I don’t see a single one on any website priced that low?

I have similar spec and I would be looking for circa 17k at least

sk8board

Shefwedfan wrote: »

From what dealer? I don’t see a single one on any website priced that low?

I have similar spec and I would be looking for circa 17k at least

I assume the other poster means that a garage might give you more as a trade against a new car, but actually they’d also give you 1-2k off that car for cash anyway, so the true value you’re getting for yours is lower.

On a private sale you’d be pitching it at 17k I would think, but accepting less, given the higher mileage and lack of garage warranty.

Bear in mind, like it or not, the value of sterling means that diesel family cars are being imported in their droves, and the garage will need to sell yours while competing with those.
Price it slightly above the price of importing.

colm_mcm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

From what dealer? I don’t see a single one on any website priced that low?

I have similar spec and I would be looking for circa 17k at least

Autotrader in uk plus VRT.

Shefwedfan

colm_mcm wrote: »

Autotrader in uk plus VRT.

That’s not really a proper guide.....

Why would you quote a price from a uk website?

Majority of people do not travel to uk to buy so its irrelevant what the uk market is it

Wildly Boaring

Shefwedfan wrote: »

That’s not really a proper guide.....

Why would you quote a price from a uk website?

Majority of people do not travel to uk to buy so its irrelevant what the uk market is it

That's what a car is worth right now when selling privately.
Autotrader plus VRT plus few hundred.

Might change after Brexit.

Not everyone interested in going to UK but hundreds of little dealers bringing stock over constantly.

Shefwedfan

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

That's what a car is worth right now when selling privately.
Autotrader plus VRT plus few hundred.

Might change after Brexit.

Not everyone interested in going to UK but hundreds of little dealers bringing stock over constantly.

Hardly bringing them over and just selling on at cost price are they?

Wildly Boaring

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Hardly bringing them over and just selling on at cost price are they?

Nope but they're buying them at auction not UK dealer price.

Those same people in Ireland who wont look to UK also not gonna buy privately at big money.

Selling privately in this country over 10k is hard

colm_mcm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

That’s not really a proper guide.....

Why would you quote a price from a uk website?

Majority of people do not travel to uk to buy so its irrelevant what the uk market is it

Of course it’s accurate. That’s what they can be bought for. Everybody’s importing cars. It has a huge effect on prices here.

bazz26

Indeed, 100,000 cars were imported into the country in 2018.

Atlantic Dawn

bazz26 wrote: »

Indeed, 100,000 cars were imported into the country in 2018.

In a hard Brexit the loss of this VRT will be catastrophic for the economy.

whippet

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

In a hard Brexit the loss of this VRT will be catastrophic for the economy.

How much did revenue take in on VRT from 2nd hand UK imports in 2018? In the grand scheme of things I don’t think this revenue loss will be ‘catastrophic’

Shefwedfan

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

In a hard Brexit the loss of this VRT will be catastrophic for the economy.

VRT on a load of old clocked UK diesels is hardly keeping the economy afloat

Selling more new cars will be a lot better

listermint

Shefwedfan wrote: »

VRT on a load of old clocked UK diesels is hardly keeping the economy afloat

Selling more new cars will be a lot better

Clocked UK cars......

What is utter gutter talk.

You didn't like the price someone is giving for a car similar to your own so you take offense to it attack the posters point about imports and now claim that all imported cars are clocked.


Are you actually serious or on the sauce..

Shefwedfan

listermint wrote: »

Clocks UK cars......

What is utter gutter talk.

You didn't like the price someone is giving for a car similar to your own so you take offense to it attack the posters point about imports and now claim that all imported cars are clocked.


Are you actually serious or on the sauce..

:p I have a trade in price against my car, let's just say the numbers around here are a tiny teeny wee bit off.....:P



The point was made the VRT loss would be catastrophic to Ireland. No it won't be.



Yes a certain percentage of the cars imports from UK will bring in decent VRT, the majority are diesels, clocked and pushed out to poor unsuspecting buyers.



They used to have a thread in here listing them all. Not sure where it is gone. Or take a spin up the Longmile road.....not hard to find



The government will make more out of new car sales and the VRT on them.

Superfoods

Thank you for the advice. I was thinking about selling myself but if that is really what people think they can buy my car at then I am wasting my time.

I got a price for a trade so just need to work the numbers. Not what I wanted but then I knew myself 19k was unrealistic. The question is do I keep for a few more years or trade up.

The day's of getting better value selling car privately seem to have gone.

Superfoods

Shefwedfan wrote: »

:p I have a trade in price against my car, let's just say the numbers around here are a tiny teeny wee bit off.....:P

If you don't mind could you PM what you got out of interest so I can price match, no hassle if you don't want to.

grogi

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

In a hard Brexit the loss of this VRT will be catastrophic for the economy.

Sale of 20000 new cars will offset that with VRT and VAT.

enricoh

I had a 2011 1.6d focus for sale last September on done deal, car is perfect. 4 new tyres, taxed for year, parking sensors etc, high genuine miles at 150k but perfect.
Had it up for 4950, then 4700, 4500, 4250. No joy only a few texts offering 2.5 - 3.
No viewings at all, i couldn't believe it.
Was gonna sell n buy a little petrol 1l as mileage has changed, ended up keeping it.
Competition is intense these days selling privately, u may get a bit of a land like i did!

Shefwedfan

enricoh wrote: »

I had a 2011 1.6d focus for sale last September on done deal, car is perfect. 4 new tyres, taxed for year, parking sensors etc, high genuine miles at 150k but perfect.
Had it up for 4950, then 4700, 4500, 4250. No joy only a few texts offering 2.5 - 3.
No viewings at all, i couldn't believe it.
Was gonna sell n buy a little petrol 1l as mileage has changed, ended up keeping it.
Competition is intense these days selling privately, u may get a bit of a land like i did!

It's not intense, you have a load of people walking around that think they are little Arthur Daleys....


You are trying to sell a decent spec car and the buyer will find some heap of sh*t with no spec and twice the mileage and then expect to buy your car at the same price....normal on phone conversation "but I can buy that car for XYZ"

Or as seen here, getting silly prices from UK and then trying to say you should sell your car at the same price.....


I had some guy come to view a car of mine before, then starts scrolling on his phone with autotrader, I asked him would he go to UK? No he hadn't the time but wanted me to match the price, I drove away.....


Better off going to a dealer, building a relationship and buying/selling off them regular. Getting them to service etc

BrianBoru00

Shefwedfan wrote: »

:p I have a trade in price against my car, let's just say the numbers around here are a tiny teeny wee bit off.....:P



The point was made the VRT loss would be catastrophic to Ireland. No it won't be.



Yes a certain percentage of the cars imports from UK will bring in decent VRT, the majority are diesels, clocked and pushed out to poor unsuspecting buyers.



They used to have a thread in here listing them all. Not sure where it is gone. Or take a spin up the Longmile road.....not hard to find



The government will make more out of new car sales and the VRT on them.

The MOT has required mileage for a fair few years now so I'd trust the mileage on a UK car more than I would from a dealer here.

Wildly Boaring

Shefwedfan wrote: »

:p I have a trade in price against my car, let's just say the numbers around here are a tiny teeny wee bit off.....:P

The point was made the VRT loss would be catastrophic to Ireland. No it won't be.


Yes a certain percentage of the cars imports from UK will bring in decent VRT, the majority are diesels, clocked and pushed out to poor unsuspecting buyers.

Trade in is not selling privately.
The majority of imports are clocked..... you SIMI's press officer?

Shefwedfan

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Trade in is not selling privately.
The majority of imports are clocked..... you SIMI's press officer?

Why would anyone sell a car privately if some posters on here are telling them the value of car is 12k. Quick scan of donedeal and a 12k is 2011 or a couple with massive milage......

Trade in value I got was 5k+ more.....


Nothing to do with SIMI but no matter what margin the dealer is making if I am selling a car privately at 12k or getting an offer 5k plus to trade in I know which option the buyer should go with.....


Another thread about clocked cars.....

listermint

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It's not intense, you have a load of people walking around that think they are little Arthur Daleys....


You are trying to sell a decent spec car and the buyer will find some heap of sh*t with no spec and twice the mileage and then expect to buy your car at the same price....normal on phone conversation "but I can buy that car for XYZ"

Or as seen here, getting silly prices from UK and then trying to say you should sell your car at the same price.....


I had some guy come to view a car of mine before, then starts scrolling on his phone with autotrader, I asked him would he go to UK? No he hadn't the time but wanted me to match the price, I drove away.....


Better off going to a dealer, building a relationship and buying/selling off them regular. Getting them to service etc

So basically you just showed an example of how competition is intense then.

Shefwedfan

listermint wrote: »

So basically you just showed an example of how competition is intense then.

I would classify intense as the market was full of good cars, all similar condition and spec and buyers who are up to speed....


Would that describe the Irish market?

Wildly Boaring

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Another thread about clocked cars.....

You brought up clocked cars.
You again stated that majority of UK imports are clocked.

You give out that it's another thread about clocked cars.

bazz26

This talk about the majority of UK imports being clocked is utter nonsense and just sounds like SIMI propaganda. I'm on my 4th or 5th UK import and none of them were clocked. I bought them from legitimate sources here and did my homework on each car's history. I've also gone to the UK with other people who bought there, again proper due diligence. In contrast try tracing the service history on your typical Irish car where the claim that Pa the mechanic living down the road gave it everything it needed but just didn't give receipts. Don't do your homework and you will get burnt irrespective of where the car was originally registered.

colm_mcm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Why would anyone sell a car privately if some posters on here are telling them the value of car is 12k. Quick scan of donedeal and a 12k is 2011 or a couple with massive milage......

Trade in value I got was 5k+ more.....


Nothing to do with SIMI but no matter what margin the dealer is making if I am selling a car privately at 12k or getting an offer 5k plus to trade in I know which option the buyer should go with.....


Another thread about clocked cars.....

Please read my post again. I think a garage would buy in the car for €12k net of any discounts used to artificially bump up the value.

sk8board

As we all know, comparing the private sale value against a trade in value is just a fools errand.
In an ideal world, we’d all sell our cars privately and then get a cash discount on the new car - have our cake and eat it.

Two weeks my 70yo mum was happy getting €2.9k off the price of a new T-Roc for her ‘03 Mini Cooper S (it’s in good colour/spec/condition/NCT etc).
We got her a cash price and it was €2.6k off (€29.9k list) - so her mini was just worth €300.

The mini is now listed privately and her new T-Roc arrived on Friday.

Shefwedfan

colm_mcm wrote: »

Please read my post again. I think a garage would buy in the car for €12k net of any discounts used to artificially bump up the value.

Let's read it again

colm_mcm wrote: »

You can bring in same spec in auto from the uk (bought from dealer) with less mileage for approx €15.5k

I’d expect garage to offer €13-13.5k on a trade in, based on a valuation of €12000

Who exactly are the garage buying the car for 12k from?

You mention 13-13.5k for a trade in, this is not based on my experience and I went to 2 garages this week with a fairly similar car to the OP. Probably in worse condition because my kids are not the cleanist and a few shopping centre bangs

Any 14 car I see on donedeal and worse case if 15k+ for the same year Galaxy. Of course you will have another 30k miles on it and it will be a Zetec spec, they are from your back street dealer

If I go SIMI then actually no 14 Galaxy available. Spirit Ford have a 151 auto Zetec for 22k with similar mileage...knock 4k off for the year and that is 18k....now I dont expect the garage to buy at 18k......Maybe my numbers are wrong? please correct me if they are

wassie

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Selling privately in this country over 10k is hard

This has been my experience in selling my last 3 cars, although when I have finally found a buyer, the transactions were very painless! Just need to be patient which isn't easy if you need the car for daily use and keeping it in sale condition.

randomstuff

sk8board wrote: »

Two weeks my 70yo mum was happy getting €2.9k off the price of a new T-Roc for her ‘03 Mini Cooper S (it’s in good colour/spec/condition/NCT etc).

Your 70yo mum was driving a cooper s? Nice!

enricoh

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Let's read it again



Who exactly are the garage buying the car for 12k from?

You mention 13-13.5k for a trade in, this is not based on my experience and I went to 2 garages this week with a fairly similar car to the OP. Probably in worse condition because my kids are not the cleanist and a few shopping centre bangs

Any 14 car I see on donedeal and worse case if 15k+ for the same year Galaxy. Of course you will have another 30k miles on it and it will be a Zetec spec, they are from your back street dealer

If I go SIMI then actually no 14 Galaxy available. Spirit Ford have a 151 auto Zetec for 22k with similar mileage...knock 4k off for the year and that is 18k....now I dont expect the garage to buy at 18k......Maybe my numbers are wrong? please correct me if they are

Are any of them selling on done deal though at those prices? Plenty of dreamers on it aiming high!