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Catholic Marriage

  • 23-02-2019 2:07am
    #1
    Up Donegal
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    A couple separated and later got divorced 20+ years after they were married in the Catholic church. Now, one of them is getting married again in the Catholic church. (The 'new' spouse is a Catholic also) The original marriage was never annulled. So, how can the second wedding take place in the Catholic church, given that the first one still exists in the eyes of the church?


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  • #2
    Faith
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    Mod note: Moved from the weddings forum as this feels more like a question specific to the Catholic Church and its policies, as opposed to weddings as a whole.


  • #3
    eviltwin
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    Up Donegal wrote: »
    A couple separated and later got divorced 20+ years after they were married in the Catholic church. Now, one of them is getting married again in the Catholic church. (The 'new' spouse is a Catholic also) The original marriage was never annulled. So, how can the second wedding take place in the Catholic church, given that the first one still exists in the eyes of the church?

    Are you sure they won't be having a civil marriage first and having a blessing in the church?


  • #4
    Up Donegal
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    Are you sure they won't be having a civil marriage first and having a blessing in the church?

    To the best of my knowledge, no. That is possible but I'll try to check it out anyway.


  • #5
    splinter65
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    The first requirement of the sacrament of matrimony is that both parties be “free to marry” so not married ( in the eyes of the Catholic Church) to someone else.
    If one has been married and not got a Catholic Church annulment then they can’t be married again in the church.


  • #6
    splinter65
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    Are you sure they won't be having a civil marriage first and having a blessing in the church?

    A blessing wouldn’t be in the church, it’s hard to find a priest with time to do these things now and it’s pretty pointless anyway.


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  • #7
    Avatar MIA
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    Is the first spouse still alive?


  • #8
    Defunkd
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    Maybe they haven't disclosed to the priest that one already got married and divorced? Either forgot to tell or trying to deceive?


  • #9
    Up Donegal
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    splinter65 wrote: »
    The first requirement of the sacrament of matrimony is that both parties be “free to marry” so not married ( in the eyes of the Catholic Church) to someone else.
    If one has been married and not got a Catholic Church annulment then they can’t be married again in the church.

    Yes, that's what I was thinking too.


  • #10
    Up Donegal
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    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    Is the first spouse still alive?

    Yes.


  • #11
    Up Donegal
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    Defunkd wrote: »
    Maybe they haven't disclosed to the priest that one already got married and divorced? Either forgot to tell or trying to deceive?

    Possibly.


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  • #12
    Peregrinus
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    Defunkd wrote: »
    Maybe they haven't disclosed to the priest that one already got married and divorced? Either forgot to tell or trying to deceive?
    Be hard to conceal this (and risky to try).

    I'd be inclined to dig a little deeper into the statement that "the original marriage was never annulled". How does the OP know this?


  • #13
    FanadMan
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    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Be hard to conceal this (and risky to try).

    I'd be inclined to dig a little deeper into the statement that "the original marriage was never annulled". How does the OP know this?

    Maybe the OP is the ex spouse.....


  • #14
    Up Donegal
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    FanadMan wrote: »
    Maybe the OP is the ex spouse.....

    Nope!!


  • #15
    harrylittle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭harrylittle


    Up Donegal wrote: »
    A couple separated and later got divorced 20+ years after they were married in the Catholic church. Now, one of them is getting married again in the Catholic church. (The 'new' spouse is a Catholic also) The original marriage was never annulled. So, how can the second wedding take place in the Catholic church, given that the first one still exists in the eyes of the church?

    Shouldn't be allowed under church dogma but the way the church is going lately led by the anti pope himself it would not surprise me.


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