Damages awarded

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/boy-5-who-saw-mother-injured-by-glass-panel-awarded-20k-for-psychiatric-injuries-37831923.html

Wow.

15 month old suffers “psychiatric injuries”.

The law is an ass.

Allinall

Dav010 wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/boy-5-who-saw-mother-injured-by-glass-panel-awarded-20k-for-psychiatric-injuries-37831923.html

Wow.

15 month old suffers “psychiatric injuries”.

The law is an ass.

Are you a doctor?

Allinall

Allinall wrote: »

Are you a doctor?

Yes actually

Cee-Jay-Cee

Pure greed. I wish them no luck with the money.

Deebles McBeebles

Kid was 15 months and didn't see the accident, just the bloody mother after it. Yet the club were so afraid they offered 20k.

Nice work if you can get it.

Effects

How much did the mother get for the initial accident?

Nekarsulm

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Pure greed. I wish them no luck with the money.

Child won't see a cent for another 13 years, and parents won't be able to access it either.

Effects

Allinall wrote: »

Are you a doctor?

Well the guy who examined him was.

Jude’s doctor found very little wrong with the child and while seeing his mother injured had the potential to be traumatising for the boy, there had been no lasting negative effect on him.

How much do you get if it has an actual effect on you?

RHJ

If it's true, the kid has to wait 13 years to access the money then if it makes you feel any better inflation is currently running at around 2% so by the time he gets the money it will be worth approximately 26% less than today.

Mad_maxx

That is just taking the p1ss

is_that_so

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Kid was 15 months and didn't see the accident, just the bloody mother after it. Yet the club were so afraid they offered 20k.

Nice work if you can get it.

That's what seems to be at the core of a lot of these settlements. Some entities will push back, the likes of pubs, clubs and especially anything to do with accidents. I am dubious about effect on the child but at least his college fees are sorted out.

Timberrrrrrrr

Next up.

Child sues hospital for psychiatric trauma after seeing too much blood during his/her birth.

Effects

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Next up.

Child sues hospital for psychiatric trauma after seeing too much blood during his/her birth.

Why stop there?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2019/feb/05/consent-being-born-man-suing-parents-for-giving-birth-to-him

Grab All Association

Effects wrote: »

Why stop there?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2019/feb/05/consent-being-born-man-suing-parents-for-giving-birth-to-him

There’s a lawsuit I surprisingly have no issue with.

We don’t choose to be born,and the ones who bring in a child they can Ill afford extreme poverty should be prosecuted

is_that_so

Grab All Association wrote: »

There’s a lawsuit I surprisingly have no issue with.

We don’t choose to be born,and the ones who bring in a child they can Ill afford extreme poverty should be prosecuted

Sounds like the Dutch chap who wanted to have his age changed. Always someone to blame for personal "misery.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46425774

The Bishop Basher

Every time it seems like we've hit a new low, some greedy flucker somewhere has been greedy enough to find another one.

I don't blame the greed afflicted. I feel sorry for them tbh.

I blame the judges who facilitate and agree to this nonsense.

Anyway,

May their ill gotten gains bring them nothing but misery and misfortune for the rest of their days.

skerry

Ahhhm, have ye not seen Dexter lads? These type of childhood traumas can have serious (and entertaining) consequences on an infant .......at least on TV they do.

Fiftyfilthy

Hope the baby has nightmares over it . May as well get their money’s worth then

Don’t worry baby about the nightmares, 20k will make them go away....

Effects

The Sun going with the classy angle: https://www.thesun.ie/news/3775271/glamour-models-tot-compo-blood/

TheChizler

Not commenting on the merits of the case, but this line struck me:

Judge Garavan, who said that while there was no recognised psychiatric illness diagnosed, nonetheless there were many cases that came before the court that did not measure up to post traumatic stress disorder. He approved the offer.

Am I picking it up wrong, or is he basically saying that "there's no good evidence of injury here, but we make orders to pay out for no evidence all the time and why should this be different?"

El_Bee

I really need to take a dive, free money is out there you just have to make it look convincing.

Your Face

It seems so easy.

Effects

TheChizler wrote: »

we make orders to pay out for no evidence all the time and why should this be different?"

Cheaper in the long run/hedging bets/jobs for the boys.

RMAOK

Effects wrote: »

The Sun going with the classy angle: https://www.thesun.ie/news/3775271/glamour-models-tot-compo-blood/

No sensationalism there at all....

The mother looked well in her younger days

arybvtcw0eolkf

RMAOK wrote: »

No sensationalism there at all....

The mother looked well in her younger days

Your looking at her tits, her head is a big square thing.

Stone Gossard

Effects wrote: »

The Sun going with the classy angle: https://www.thesun.ie/news/3775271/glamour-models-tot-compo-blood/

Jaysus ..if you don't take that down the young fella is going to sue you for seeing his poor auld mams tits splashed all over the internet!

McCrack

Rennaws wrote: »

Every time it seems like we've hit a new low, some greedy flucker somewhere has been greedy enough to find another one.

I don't blame the greed afflicted. I feel sorry for them tbh.

I blame the judges who facilitate and agree to this nonsense.

Anyway,

May their ill gotten gains bring them nothing but misery and misfortune for the rest of their days.

Oh stop being so bitter

Markcheese

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Child won't see a cent for another 13 years, and parents won't be able to access it either.

So if the child is traumatised, none of the money can be used for therapy till he's properly f*ed up (ha), and then he can heal himself with a dirt bike and a car...

Would it not have made more sense to put 20,000 aside exclusively for therapy (ha) and any expenses related, not reward with a holiday money.

Markcheese

How much will the kid be able to sue his mam for when he discovers she was a stripper, oh the trauma...

Kivaro

TheChizler wrote: »

Not commenting on the merits of the case, but this line struck me:



Am I picking it up wrong, or is he basically saying that "there's no good evidence of injury here, but we make orders to pay out for no evidence all the time and why should this be different?"

When I read that this morning, I just thought that I was still asleep or had woken up in the twilight zone.
Really odd thing for a judge to say.

But then again, it's Ireland.

fullstop

Effects wrote: »

The Sun going with the classy angle: https://www.thesun.ie/news/3775271/glamour-models-tot-compo-blood/

She deserves no better, chasing money for that.

kowloon

Effects wrote: »

Why stop there?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2019/feb/05/consent-being-born-man-suing-parents-for-giving-birth-to-him

I never knew that was a thing. Shall we just stop breeding so?
We could all join the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement: http://www.vhemt.org/

The Bishop Basher

McCrack wrote: »

Oh stop being so bitter

Not bitter..

Just have a pain in me hoop seeing judges award large sums of money to greedy people with imaginary injuries.

They'd be welcome to the money if the rest of us weren't paying for it.

But we are.

Over and over again.

Samuel T. Cogley

Rennaws wrote: »

Not bitter..

Just have a pain in me hoop seeing judges award large sums of money to greedy people with imaginary injuries.

They'd be welcome to the money if the rest of us weren't paying for it.

But we are.

Over and over again.

Not awarded by the Judge as this was a settlement.

Samuel T. Cogley

TheChizler wrote: »

Not commenting on the merits of the case, but this line struck me:

Am I picking it up wrong, or is he basically saying that "there's no good evidence of injury here, but we make orders to pay out for no evidence all the time and why should this be different?"

No he's saying that 'nervous shock' does not have to rise to the level of PTSD before an award can be made.

orourkeda1977

Maybe this is just me but the grandfather has an extremely punchable looking head on him.

Samuel T. Cogley

orourkeda1977 wrote: »

Maybe this is just me but the grandfather has an extremely punchable looking head on him.

That'd be at least €100K

orourkeda1977

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

That'd be at least €100K

And the kid is 5 now. He'd be paid at least 50 large

The Bishop Basher

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Not awarded by the Judge as this was a settlement.

Yes I know that's why I said "facilitated" in the original post.

It doesn't matter either way though.

The judges are awarding and approving these large sums for insignificant and non existent injuries and in some cases sending them away to get more as with the child with the fully healed broken leg last year.

https://www.injury-compensation.ie/news/claim-for-a-broken-leg-at-play-school/

Samuel T. Cogley

Rennaws wrote: »

Yes I know that's why I said "facilitated" in the original post.

It doesn't matter either way though.

The judges are awarding and approving these large sums for insignificant and non existent injuries and in some cases sending them away to get more as with the child with the fully healed broken leg last year.

https://www.injury-compensation.ie/news/claim-for-a-broken-leg-at-play-school/

Simply going off the Book of Quantum on that one.

It's up to these places to have a proper risk assessment in place and offer a proper defence. There's something that's not adding up in this one and it's alluded to in the article.

As for awards generally, we've no general data just 'news worthy' reports. Of those reports I will say I think there is a trend of awards which are too high.

Mrsmum

So everyone else that was there on the day she walked into the glass door and was all blood, are they entitled to sue also for their trauma ?

Samuel T. Cogley

Mrsmum wrote: »

So everyone else that was there on the day she walked into the glass door and was all blood, are they entitled to sue also for their trauma ?

They could give it a go.

Mrsmum

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

They could give it a go.

I think we will reach a point where everyone entering a premises will have to sign a waiver if they want admittance.

lawred2

RHJ wrote: »

If it's true, the kid has to wait 13 years to access the money then if it makes you feel any better inflation is currently running at around 2% so by the time he gets the money it will be worth approximately 26% less than today.

you forgot to compound it

closer to 30%

Samuel T. Cogley

Mrsmum wrote: »

I think we will reach a point where everyone entering a premises will have to sign a waiver if they want admittance.

There is also the issue that premises need to protect themselves by having a proper risk assessment etc. putting themselves in a proper position to fight claims. There's something not quite right in this case.

2nd time in recent times a Rice has screwed the Irish People

is_that_so

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

There is also the issue that premises need to protect themselves by having a proper risk assessment etc. putting themselves in a proper position to fight claims. There's something not quite right in this case.

Glass doors, marked or unmarked, do leave people open to claims every time. The woman seemed to have a case, the child really is a huge stretch but negative PR around it for an entity would have cost way more than they settled for.

Is there no end to this madness?

Child catches finger in classroom door, a door probably similar to any door in a home.

€55.000.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/55-000-for-girl-unable-to-grow-long-nails-after-accident-1.3801672?mode=amp

freshpopcorn

I always think of all the little bumps and scraps and things I've seen over the years. If I wanted I could be in the money.

RacoonQueen

Dav010 wrote: »

Is there no end to this madness?

Child catches finger in classroom door, a door probably similar to any door in a home.

€55.000.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/55-000-for-girl-unable-to-grow-long-nails-after-accident-1.3801672?mode=amp

Come on now, her handwriting is affected...