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  • 17-02-2019 5:42pm
    #1
    Bobtheman
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    This year Department have moved date for final collection from MAY (with final exam) to March 6th. They plan to correct them over Easter!

    This could happen with all Project work that has previously gone up with Exams ie like History LC.

    Has this caught out people? Ie even though you were meant to collect them in March and put projects away until MAY. Did schools do this??


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  • #2
    Icsics
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    When is the exam?


  • #3
    rainbowtrout
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    Bobtheman wrote: »
    This year Department have moved date for final collection from MAY (with final exam) to March 6th. They plan to correct them over Easter!

    This could happen with all Project work that has previously gone up with Exams ie like History LC.

    Has this caught out people? Ie even though you were meant to collect them in March and put projects away until MAY. Did schools do this??

    So what if they have to be posted off in March? Surely that's fairer, and prevents some schools giving their students an advantage by letting them take until May to complete the portfolio.

    There was a circular about it in January. Don't see how people could be caught out. My school takes up all portfolio work on the deadline, but I know some schools don't do that. About time they were pulled into line.


  • #4
    Bobtheman
    Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Look they are Technically in their rights. But there was no indication they were going to do this. No hint. As to unfair advantage-come to my school and see who we are dealing with pupil wise. Some of them. Then tell me we have an advantage!


  • #5
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Look they are Technically in their rights. But there was no indication they were going to do this. No hint. As to unfair advantage-come to my school and see who we are dealing with pupil wise. Some of them. Then tell me we have an advantage!

    A circular was sent out in January. It doesn't matter who you have in front of you. Projects should be submitted in March on the cut off date, students shouldn't have an extra 6 weeks in some schools and not in others.

    If projects are being submitted on time, this isn't an issue.


  • #6
    Bobtheman
    Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Yes lets apply the letter of the law to 17 year olds. I wonder if I applied the letter of the law to my contract /duties what life would be like for students??

    Flexibility is required day to day in classrooms and schools. Many students are still in the system because the School and teachers showed flexibility and didnt apply the strict letter of the law.
    The Department should have been clear since September they were going to apply this change.

    Anyway Im not going to discuss ethics with anonymous posters who probably dont teach LCVP


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  • #7
    rainbowtrout
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    Students seem to manage fine with the timetable that is set for the LC exams for every other subject.

    A deadline is a deadline. So presuming you give them a further two months to complete the project which is more than other students get, do they manage to have the portfolio completed by the first Wednesday in May? Isn't that a deadline? If they can comply with that deadline then they can comply with the actual deadline. And I have taught LCVP.


  • #8
    Bobtheman
    Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    rainbowtrout wrote: »
    Students seem to manage fine with the timetable that is set for the LC exams for every other subject.

    A deadline is a deadline. So presuming you give them a further two months to complete the project which is more than other students get, do they manage to have the portfolio completed by the first Wednesday in May? Isn't that a deadline? If they can comply with that deadline then they can comply with the actual deadline. And I have taught LCVP.

    Most Students in Ireland took the extra time as few schools collected them up. Thats a fact. It was a poor system. They should always been shipped off to SEC in March. Leaving them in schools was like asking poachers to be game keepers. Its one of the reasons why the ASTI fought so hard to avoid assessing our own pupils.
    As for your sweeping statement about pupils managing fine with other subjects I cant comment. We could go and discuss the rampant writing of projects by teachers sometime but I couldnt be arsed. And No I dont write LCVP portfolios.

    RE MAY-they were shipped off in May To SEC. They were 'stored'in schools until then. Look the whole subject is riddled with fault lines. The subject options criteria is nonsense. The marking is criminal. But I grow tired and weary . Hoping to ditch it


  • #9
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Most Students in Ireland took the extra time as few schools collected them up. Thats a fact. It was a poor system. They should always been shipped off to SEC in March. Leaving them in schools was like asking poachers to be game keepers. Its one of the reasons why the ASTI fought so hard to avoid assessing our own pupils.
    As for your sweeping statement about pupils managing fine with other subjects I cant comment. We could go and discuss the rampant writing of projects by teachers sometime but I couldnt be arsed. And No I dont write LCVP portfolios.

    RE MAY-they were shipped off in May To SEC. They were 'stored'in schools until then. Look the whole subject is riddled with fault lines. The subject options criteria is nonsense. The marking is criminal. But I grow tired and weary . Hoping to ditch it

    Do you have any evidence to back up this sweeping statement?

    Leaving them in schools is asking teachers to act like professionals, i.e. take them up the day they are due. The exam secretary should take delivery of them from the teacher and store them away somewhere under lock and key.


  • #10
    Bobtheman
    Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    rainbowtrout wrote: »
    Do you have any evidence to back up this sweeping statement?

    Leaving them in schools is asking teachers to act like professionals, i.e. take them up the day they are due. The exam secretary should take delivery of them from the teacher and store them away somewhere under lock and key.

    Groan . The power has gone to your head! Tick that box lieutenant


  • #11
    rainbowtrout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Your colleagues must miss you deeply this week;)"

    Not got anything better to say for yourself than insulting posters?


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  • #12
    Bobtheman
    Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    rainbowtrout wrote: »
    Not got anything better to say for yourself than insulting posters?

    If you think that's insulting you have a thin skin. Anyway I don't know you so how can you be offended by anything I say ?! I altered it pretty soon. Adios.
    I don't plan on posting again.


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