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Catch - 22 - Hulu Original (**Spoilers**)

  • 14-02-2019 4:56pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭


    With an All star cast of Kyle Chandler, Hugh Laurie & George Clooney staring and directing.
    Catch-22 is described by Hulu as "the story of the incomparable, artful dodger, Yossarian, a US Air Force bombardier in World War II who is furious because thousands of people he has never met are trying to kill him. But his real problem is not the enemy, but rather his own army which keeps increasing the number of missions the men must fly to complete their service. Yet if Yossarian makes any attempt to avoid his military assignments, he’ll be in violation of Catch-22, a hilariously sinister bureaucratic rule which specifies that a concern for one’s own safety in the face of dangers which are real and immediate is the process of a rational mind; a man is considered insane if he willingly continues to fly dangerous combat missions, but a request to be removed from duty is evidence of sanity and therefore makes him ineligible to be relieved from duty.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    A more extensive trailer has popped up, reminding me that I really must get around to reading that novel:



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    My favourite book of all time. I'd be really skeptical if any remake could live up but the trailer doesn't look terrible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Drops today and is greeting great reviews.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 27,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    Absolutely love the book... might sign up to Hulu to give this a watch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I have watched the first 4 episodes of 6.


    It is amazing I have to say Clooney has done an amazing job with it.


    The cast is near perfect and Kyle Chandler when on screen is simply in a award winning form.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Walter Bishop


    Interesting that they seem to be playing it rather straighter than the source material does, first episode was good but that's all I've seen so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Foggy Jew


    Where are you watching this?

    It's the bally ballyness of it that makes it all seem so bally bally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Finished it this evening and was hugely impressed with it from start to finish.

    I can easily see it cleaning up at the next awards season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭threein99


    My favourite book of all time. I'd be really skeptical if any remake could live up but the trailer doesn't look terrible

    I read the book at the third attempt and really didnt enjoy it at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Starting Channel 4 soon - can't wait. Looks unreal.

    Laurie, Clooney, Chandler, and the excellent Christopher Abbott as Yossarian - what a treat!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    I love the book so I'm wary of an adaptation but I've watched the first episode and it seems worth sticking with. Excellent cast.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's not bad. It's not great either. It's worth checking out. I haven't finished it yet though. I don't think the humour or the word play translates that well. The cast is fantastic though which is its saving grace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,369 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    very much depends on those circular arguments, which they do atleast 3 times


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭Blinky Plebum


    threein99 wrote: »
    I read the book at the third attempt and really didnt enjoy it at all.


    I hated the book.


    I gave up on it after about 100 pages (100 pages is enough to give any book) as I couldn't take any more of it. Reading it felt like having to endure a really annoying obnoxious individual continually shouting the same joke at you and elbowing you in the side and saying "Funny, isn't it. It's funny this is isn't it" .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Conchir


    Interesting, it's one of my favourite books, love the humour in it. Different strokes and all that.

    Any indication of when it's out on Channel 4?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    How does the series compare with the last (only other?) translation of the book, the 1970 film?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭threein99


    What's the humour in the book? It went waaayyyy over my head


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    threein99 wrote: »
    What's the humour in the book? It went waaayyyy over my head

    You're kind of wasting your time on this thread then in fairness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭threein99


    You're kind of wasting your time on this thread then in fairness.

    I genuinely didn't get an ounce of humour in the book.


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    pixelburp wrote: »
    How does the series compare with the last (only other?) translation of the book, the 1970 film?

    Much better than the film. The longer form of a series helps a lot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Conchir


    Don’t want to derail this too much from the tv series, but just one more point on the book. I’ve always seen a bit of Catch-22 in padraiggg’s writing: https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2055716814

    Perhaps just me, but I’ve always seen similarities in the style/tone/humour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90,184 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Conchir wrote: »
    Interesting, it's one of my favourite books, love the humour in it. Different strokes and all that.

    Any indication of when it's out on Channel 4?

    Channel 4 on Thursday June 20th at 9pm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭storker


    threein99 wrote: »
    What's the humour in the book? It went waaayyyy over my head

    I read it when I was 17 and found it a bit of a slog and not very funny. I read it again about a year later and it took me about two weeks and I found it hilarious. I've read it several times since.

    For the, the humour is in the insanity of the different situations and character outlooks, and in the paradoxical way Heller puts many things. e.g.

    Colonel Cathcart maintains a house in the hills where it's rumoured that he has wild parties with plenty of booze and women. In fact, he has the house but the parties don't happen, because General Dreedle, who Catchcart would love to impress, never visits it, and ... "Colonel Cathcart wasn't going to spend time making love to beautiful women unless there was something in it for him".

    "The case against Clevinger was open and shut. All that was missing was something to charge him with."

    "...the officers' club which Yossarian had not helped to build. In fact there were many officers' clubs he had not helped to build, but he was proudest of the one on Pianosa."

    "He loved both his parents even though they had been very good to him."

    (Quotes are from memory so may not be 100% accurate.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭storker


    This version looks a bit more promising than the mish-mash that was the movie. The IMDB cast list shows that there a more characters included from the book that the movie left out e.g. Major ___ de Coverly, Clevinger, Lt. Scheisskopf, Kid Sampson, Michaela the maid with the lime-coloured panties, and even Mudd, the dead man in Yossarian's tent. I don't see any mention of Hungry Joe, or Chief White Halfoat, though.

    Set to record episode 1 this evening, fingers crossed...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Just watched the first episode on Channel 4, and I must say it was very good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,128 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    branie2 wrote: »
    Just watched the first episode on Channel 4, and I must say it was very good
    A good mix of the absurdity of large organisations and the horror of war - Doc Daneeka was great at explaining Catch 22.

    Did anyone else get a couple of glitches while recording it (Virgin Media, Horizon box)? Sound crackled and picture froze for 4 or 5 seconds twice in the first 10 minutes, but seemed to be OK after that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭nc6000


    Anyone still following this on Channel 4? It's three episodes in and not bad so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    A good mix of the absurdity of large organisations and the horror of war - Doc Daneeka was great at explaining Catch 22.

    Did anyone else get a couple of glitches while recording it (Virgin Media, Horizon box)? Sound crackled and picture froze for 4 or 5 seconds twice in the first 10 minutes, but seemed to be OK after that.

    I have Sky, so I was fine


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Finished this (on a plane of all places). I take back my criticism. It's actually very good. So many good moments. I love how each of the ambitious officers turn into idiotic bumbling children when a higher ranked officer is around.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Conchir


    Been slow on this so far, only 2 episodes in. Really enjoying the portrayal of Milo, exactly as I read him in the book. Also find Major de Coverley and Colonel Cathcart very well played.

    To be honest, I think pretty much all of the cast are bang on. Looking forward to watching the rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭steve_r


    Got bored with this three episodes in - is it worth seeing out?

    Read the book and I like the cast etc but I just wasn't compelled to go back to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Walter Bishop


    If you didn't like the first three you won't like the other three.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    steve_r wrote: »
    Got bored with this three episodes in - is it worth seeing out?

    Read the book and I like the cast etc but I just wasn't compelled to go back to it.

    I actually got bored after the first two and didn't touch it for months, but binged the next four in one sitting. Really enjoyed it then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Walter Bishop


    We binged it as well actually and I think that may be the way to enjoy a show like this - so perhaps watching the other three all at once might be the way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,427 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Anyone here being watching this. It is a Channel 4 show but George Cloney is in parts of it.
    Its about US Airforce Bombardiers during WW II but also kinda a comedy too.
    It is actually quiet good and funny in a dark way. There is time's when you think ok I l know that is supposed to be funny and kind of want to laugh but also think should I as its quit dark. It is also quiet gory too. Lots of blood.

    Highly recommend watching it if you get a chance.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,853 ✭✭✭brian_t




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,800 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Threads merged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,320 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I really enjoyed the series


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,128 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Smallish quibble, but I didn't like the way they drifted away from the book for Major Major Major Major. In the book, he was promoted to Major Major Major Major by an IBM computer with a sense of humour.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 27,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    They drifted away from the book for a good bit of it, really!
    Still very enjoyable though. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Enjoyable enough. Better than the movie anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,128 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Was there an in-joke around the episode numbering?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Was there an in-joke around the episode numbering?

    Not as far as I know. Looks like a mess up with their automated labeling system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭fixXxer


    Just started watching this at the weekend. Three episodes in. As someone who loves the book, I have to say I think this is super well done. Casting really hit it right with all the characters.

    The ending of episode
    3 with Kid Sampson.
    Holy ****. My wife and I actually sat there in silence after for a couple of minutes, and I knew it was coming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90,184 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    brian_t wrote: »
    Catch-22 starts on TG4 on Wednesday 8th January at 10.30pm.

    The 1970 film of the same name is on TG4 on Wednesday 1st January at 10.30pm.

    .


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