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Shameful behaviour of police

  • 14-02-2019 4:25pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭


    It really is shameful what was inflicted onto innocent nationalists in the north in the recent past:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2019/0214/1029485-psni-apology-ombudsman-loyalist/

    Here's another example of the police actively protecting loyalist terrorists. Previously, we have seen the British security forces not only protect loyalists but team up with them to attack innocent people. How long before the IRA gets mentioned?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Perifect wrote: »
    It really is shameful what was inflicted onto innocent nationalists in the north in the recent past:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2019/0214/1029485-psni-apology-ombudsman-loyalist/

    Here's another example of the police actively protecting loyalist terrorists. Previously, we have seen the British security forces not only protect loyalists but team up with them to attack innocent people. How long before the IRA gets mentioned?

    You just mentioned the 'RA .


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    It's not just the loyalist terrorists they're protecting.. also their helpers, enablers and sanctioners


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    There was widespread collusion, killing Irish people was outsourced from the British army to the loyalists. The Glenane Gang who were responsible for murdering over a 100 civilians comes to mind, a reign of state sponsored terror.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    It's not just the loyalist terrorists they're protecting.. also their helpers, enablers and sanctioners

    And how many have been charged?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    The more I read about the PSNI lately, the more it feels as if the reform of the RUC under the Good Friday Agreement has amounted to a name change and PR rebrand, but not much else. I'm aware that this could just be the media spinning things for a story, and I don't know many people who live in NI who could clarify this, but is it overly critical or harsh to suggest that the organisation hasn't so much reformed as merely renamed itself? Or would it perhaps be fairer to say that it's a lot better than the RUC but still nowhere close to an impartial civilian police service which non-discriminately enforces the law?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Perifect wrote: »
    It really is shameful what was inflicted onto innocent nationalists
    You'd think so, but unfortunately there may be downplaying and dismissal and "what about" and "shinnerbot something something" here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    Not trying to be smart OP but maybe you could put NI in the title.

    It'll turn some people off straight away but it is only fair.

    In terms of the topic at hand where some see an wilful misleading some see a cock up.

    I might tend to 'cock up' in this case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    imme wrote: »
    Not trying to be smart OP but maybe you could put NI in the title.

    It'll turn some people off straight away but it is only fair.

    In terms of the topic at hand where some see an wilful misleading some see a cock up.

    I might tend to 'cock up' in this case.

    Why? This affected innocent Irish people!

    Covering up murders and partaking in killing sprees with loyalists is not a cock up!


  • Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    imme wrote: »
    Not trying to be smart OP but maybe you could put NI in the title.

    It'll turn some people off straight away but it is only fair.

    In terms of the topic at hand where some see an wilful misleading some see a cock up.

    I might tend to 'cock up' in this case.

    if they were preparing the information for a civil case, but didn't give it to the ombudsman, it does look more along the lines of cock up rather than cover up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭Tuco88


    Perifect wrote: »
    It really is shameful what was inflicted onto innocent nationalists in the north in the recent past:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2019/0214/1029485-psni-apology-ombudsman-loyalist/

    Here's another example of the police actively protecting loyalist terrorists. Previously, we have seen the British security forces not only protect loyalists but team up with them to attack innocent people. How long before the IRA gets mentioned?

    You just mentioned the 'RA .
    That's top class detective work in all fairness 10 outa 10 Sir.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    Aegir wrote: »
    if they were preparing the information for a civil case, but didn't give it to the ombudsman, it does look more along the lines of cock up rather than cover up.

    :D Anyone who believes this is either very naive or a biased observer.


  • Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Perifect wrote: »
    :D Anyone who believes this is either very naive or a biased observer.

    did you not read the article?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    Aegir wrote: »
    did you not read the article?

    I did, then I posted it here. Are you naive or a biased observer?


  • Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Perifect wrote: »
    I did, then I posted it here. Are you naive or a biased observer?

    neither, you?

    If they were trying to cover something up, why give the information to the family in the civil case?

    Or is that a bit hard for you to fathom out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    Aegir wrote: »
    neither, you?

    If they were trying to cover something up, why give the information to the family in the civil case?

    Or is that a bit hard for you to fathom out?

    :D I just clicked on your profile, straight away I saw posts on a thread about a border poll. You've been outed!!!

    Speaking of being outed, the ruc provided the information when it was about to be exposed!


  • Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Perifect wrote: »
    :D I just clicked on your profile, straight away I saw posts on a thread about a border poll. You've been outed!!!

    Speaking of being outed, the ruc provided the information when it was about to be exposed!

    how old are you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Perifect wrote: »
    :D I just clicked on your profile, straight away I saw posts on a thread about a border poll. You've been outed!!!

    Speaking of being outed, the ruc provided the information when it was about to be exposed!

    Outed as what ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    Aegir wrote: »
    how old are you?

    Old enough to put you back in your box. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    Outed as what ?

    A biased observer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Perifect wrote: »
    A biased observer!

    In AH of all places.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,231 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Perifect wrote: »
    A biased observer!


    One of them!





    But sure gayness is legal now, isn't it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    In AH of all places.

    :D Well, he claimed otherwise, hence the whole outing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Perifect wrote: »
    A biased observer!

    How's your other thread going ?
    You know the one " Whatdya think of the Brits ?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    Odhinn wrote: »
    One of them!





    But sure gayness is legal now, isn't it?

    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    How's your other thread going ?
    You know the one " Whatdya think of the Brits ?"

    I don't know? What has that got to do with the cover up of loyalist murders by the ruc?


  • Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Perifect wrote: »
    A biased observer!

    I knew I should have looked at who started this thread before posting in it.:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    Aegir wrote: »
    I knew I should have looked at who started this thread before posting in it.:o

    Why lie? It came naturally to the ruc and the British security forces, maybe their supporters try to imitate them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    Of course, it wasn't just the ruc. Disturbingly, the gardaí covered up the Dublin and Monaghan bombings. These mass muders were masterminded by the British state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Perifect wrote: »
    :D Well, he claimed otherwise, hence the whole outing!

    I thought he just read the article and gave an opinion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    I thought he just read the article and gave an opinion.

    I asked him was he naive or biased, he claimed neither, I outed him. Simple as that. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    This is going well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    This is going well

    Be careful , or you'll be outed too.

    We know you're a Japanese battleship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    This is going well

    Let's get this back on track.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/23/ruc-cover-up-inquiry-documents-book

    Some people know the truth, some people hide from the truth and then some people cover up the truth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Perifect wrote: »
    Let's get this back on track.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/23/ruc-cover-up-inquiry-documents-book

    Some people know the truth, some people hide from the truth and then some people cover up the truth.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    This one shows what the director of the mi5 had planned for Nationalists in the north, he wanted the ruc to implement his plan.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/northern-ireland-police-cover-up-ruc-report-by-racist-officer-1.3248625

    "Morton, who spent decades as a colonial policeman in India, wrote in his memoirs that, over time, “it dawned upon me, and became deeply ingrained, that the British were the rulers of India and that the Indians were a sort of immature, backward and needy people whom it was the natural British function to govern and administer."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    So you're telling me Shawn Michaels tried to beat Bret Hart with the Sharpshooter?!

    Bloody hell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    they didn't only fail to stop terrorism, they aided terrorism of a particular, British flavour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    Of course, there was also collusion in the murders of innocent Irish people just watching us play at the world cup!

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/ruc-colluded-in-loughisland-massacre-inquiry-finds-404091.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    they didn't only fail to stop terrorism, they aided terrorism of a particular, British flavour.

    They were all on one side. The absolute misery they inflicted on the Nationalist community can never be forgiven or forgotten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Perifect wrote: »
    They were all on one side. The absolute misery they inflicted on the Nationalist community can never be forgiven or forgotten.

    They actually provided support to the IRA through their actions. They'll be considered a massive part of the problem when history is analysed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭Perifect


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    They actually provided support to the IRA through their actions. They'll be considered a massive part of the problem when history is analysed.

    Oh, the IRA were no more. Tiny numbers. The murder of innocent nationalists increased their numbers by huge amounts.


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